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F.D Signifier
F.D Signifier 3 aylar önce
"Enjoy your trash while you can" is genuinely great advice to young people
Allenluvable
Allenluvable 19 gün önce
It really is. It's only a matter of time, so enjoy it while you can.
Miel Padilla
Miel Padilla Aylar önce
What does this mean?
Mani
Mani 2 aylar önce
yep i am enjoying your videos quite a lot these days
Princess Jello
Princess Jello 2 aylar önce
!!!!
bestnokuestion
bestnokuestion 3 aylar önce
MB, FD and Super Eyepatch being colleagues is so surreal to me.
Jeremy Anderson
Jeremy Anderson Aylar önce
The "they made a special school on a futuristic island they constructed in Tokyo Bay" is such a WEIRD specific detail to exist in like five very different anime.
Charlie He
Charlie He 26 gün önce
@thedarklordx There's a plan to construct a huge pyramid like structure to house the entire population of Tokyo, in the middle of the Tokyo Bay.
Andréa Duarte
Andréa Duarte 26 gün önce
they've built offshore islands in like four different places across Japan to place airports, i think that's probably part of the irl context
Kromgar1337
Kromgar1337 28 gün önce
@thedarklordx I think there was some island in tokyo bay where a bunch of companies dumped tech they couldn't sell back when japans economy crashed
thedarklordx
thedarklordx Aylar önce
It must be based on something in real life. Or all those authors watched each other's shows.
Carbodude
Carbodude 3 aylar önce
Truly the ultimate chuunibyou experience when being a sociopath is treated as a "superpower"
No, that's wrong!
No, that's wrong! Aylar önce
Sounds more like alternative girls, not chunnis
The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer
@Some Yeeter On The Block read; he's a sociopath
Some Yeeter On The Block
He's not even just a sociopath. He is truly actually skilled and probably could just off people if he really wanted to. He is genuinely dangerous
Otgonbileg
Otgonbileg 2 aylar önce
uh no one has "superpower" people are just saying he has "superpower" because he is just smart
Major Blitz
Major Blitz 2 aylar önce
I missed back when Chuunibyo are just JRPG intoxicated cringe, not a "four step ahead of you" edgelord
julian12465
julian12465 Aylar önce
The anime’s greatest accomplishment is driving me to bond over how shitty it is with people who then convinced me to make my way over to the NOT offensively bad novels. Funnily enough, revisiting the anime adaptation with knowledge of the source material makes it so much more frustrating that it sucks because most of the bad things about it would be easily avoided by just being faithful. And thus I join the people that convince miffed anime watchers to read the novels, and the cycle continues.
Nutrition and Physiology
Nutrition and Physiology 2 saatler önce
Conspiracy theory: Bad anime are a subtle plot to make you read the manga for the superior writing.
Swampy Claw
Swampy Claw 10 gün önce
The anime alone is pretty decent but when you compare it to the source it’s unwatchable.
Swampy Claw
Swampy Claw 10 gün önce
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Skirbs
Skirbs 3 aylar önce
I really do not understand why tf anyone would wanna BE Ayanokoji when in the series the dude literally doesn't even wanna be himself 💀💀
I ate a corvette (it stink)
@holdingpattern you just gave every 14 year old the Anakin Skywalker treatment
holdingpattern
holdingpattern 11 gün önce
these people probably don't want to be themselves either
Danz
Danz 24 gün önce
he can literally make anything happen through a combination of social engineering and insane planning / intellect. the odds are always so insanely stacked against him but he always finds a way to come out unscathed while meeting certain conditions that increase the difficulty. it seems impossible but he finds a way and thats kind of inspiring.
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
I think the idea is that Ayanokoji is just so on a different level compared to everyone around him that he doesn't fall for anything and is 5 steps ahead of everyone is something people aspire to be. Meanwhile people don't include the whole thing where he's pretty much a slave to how his father raised him and the only act of rebellion he can muster is to try to be a normal kid at highschool until his father takes him back and uses Ayanokoiji as a tool to fulfill his own dreams.
Utkarsh
Utkarsh Aylar önce
@Alice Wandermeer lol nice
Morgan Qorishchi
Morgan Qorishchi 3 aylar önce
"Never before in my life have I felt so thirty" is, in my mom's opinion, Geoff's best line, and she's been using it repeatedly the last few days. Watching these videos with her has given our family so many memes.
AJ Axe Jockey
AJ Axe Jockey Aylar önce
You watch anime with your Mom? Or do you guys just watch trash anime reviews for lols?
waffle911
waffle911 3 aylar önce
Damn, you can get your mom into watching this? My mother is all for funny things, but I get the impression she would find Geoff pushes things a bit far.
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D Villines
D Villines 3 aylar önce
I also wanted to mention how funny it is seeing everyone treat Ayanokouji as a normal, cool guy, when he has this dead fish affect, and cold, disinterested eyes. He's not even really faking having feelings particularly well! He does the things he needs to do, but anyone who can read more subtle cues IRL would have alarm bells going off for someone like him. Even the other cool calculating schemers in the show have bursts of emotion, or at least passing expressions. It just strains credulity for me that he doesn't twig off at least a few of the more empathic girls.
alejandrooo
alejandrooo Aylar önce
that's why the LN and manga are better, he actually seems like a human there
SomeGuyy194 _
SomeGuyy194 _ Aylar önce
In the light novel I always saw it as people will impart what they want to think he’s feeling, like how people will interpret a bland painting in any way they want depending on how they feel. But in the light novel he has more emotions so it’s easier for people to do that
galaxy
galaxy 3 aylar önce
Good to mention the dead fish eyes are anime effect. In real life it would look less weird.
Frost
Frost 3 aylar önce
@DoNBiChes he does have some facial expression just not enough to be able to definitively say what he’s thinking or feeling. he’s also an attractive guy so him having that emotionless look all the time wouldnt come off as creepy
6638t 8tw
6638t 8tw 3 aylar önce
that's something in the manga/LN that is actually addressed. he actually puts effort into faking being ''a normal emotional human being'' and the times he ''dies inside'' people actually notice and comment about it. overall in all senses this anime did the series dirty. most of the problems addressed in the videos are fixed in the LN
Sandro Sliske
Sandro Sliske 3 aylar önce
Classroom of the Elite was a pivotal moment in my anime watching life. It was the very first show I realised that it was alright to drop an anime even if you've already sunk about 10 episodes into it. If it's not doing it for you and feels like a chore to even watch the next episode then it is perfectly fine to just stop. You don't need to finish everything, your time is precious and you don't have to force yourself to like what you are watching. So for that thank you Classroom of the Elite.
Grinch dumpy
Grinch dumpy 2 aylar önce
Thats me trying to get into fate series, after watching about 12 or so episode of the first fate anime i come to the realization that its just not worth it.
connor bingel
connor bingel 3 aylar önce
Attack on titan was that for me.
l cy
l cy 3 aylar önce
For me, that was nisekoi, i was 11 episodes in and i realized, fk this, i just cant deal with this misunderstanding bullshit any longer
Uz. Criiminal A. UziAustin
I realizes this since but ita always nice to see someone else word it. I tried wit 7 deadly sins too but first season ruined the rest of the other seasons for me, altho im always hearing its actually hitten, still gotta take in what i can and want. I used to b the type that would have a fan of animE finish what they started! But ofc even i know not every anim. Is as cold and thought out as i think it would b
This name has changed thanks to Bob S
Well, that would be Rent a Densefriend for me
GentlemanDemon
GentlemanDemon 3 aylar önce
when you described an opaque system where the kids are given autonomy with no structure, all I could think is that they're gonna end of with a lot of pregnant teens
Shivash Ishwar
Shivash Ishwar 8 gün önce
@Cecilia the stores on the island sell contraceptives which are available to the students
shahsad saadu
shahsad saadu 15 gün önce
@Free Hoya it's not about being smart. It's about being "smart". Booksmart nerds are gonna fuck the first chance they get.
shahsad saadu
shahsad saadu 15 gün önce
@Free Hoya those are the exact kind of kids you can expect to fuck up(literally) a lot. A lot of emotionally illiterate "smart" kids with no sense of morals.
Bots4 Breakfast
Bots4 Breakfast 2 aylar önce
Gunna be a lot of Nick Cannons too
James Harding
James Harding 3 aylar önce
@Free Hoya Having come up in a rather well-to-do school (albeit many years ago): You’re not wrong.
Billy Williams
Billy Williams 3 aylar önce
It's such a shame that Ayanokoji turned out the way he did in the series when in the light novel you see him learn to appreciate and understand those around him as he questions who he really wants to be
Leon Bakaa
Leon Bakaa 8 gün önce
@Shivash Ishwar sure, do u have discord? ill send u the link
Shivash Ishwar
Shivash Ishwar 8 gün önce
@Leon Bakaa volume 8? The site I read it on only goes up to year 2 volume 4. Mind telling me where you read it?
Leon Bakaa
Leon Bakaa Aylar önce
but he's still into executing his shady plan read y2 volume 8
Some Yeeter On The Block
He only started questioning how he sees the main girl by the end of season 2, which should have been done earlier honestly, but at least that means they may make a season. 3. Somehow I don't know what Saudi Arabian oil prince is going to give them the money but..m
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
Yep that's why he expelled airi to look cool ofc the evil genius
Morgan N
Morgan N 3 aylar önce
It's so cool when the protagonist is sociopath who emotionally manipulates everyone around him. And that when a girl is doing basically the same thing in the same series, she's the WORST.
Themanofculture_W
Themanofculture_W 17 gün önce
@EvenMJ Dunno who you were @ting, but it seems they have retreated.
skope
skope 23 gün önce
@Diss RapsI love this response
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
Well, the point is that Ayanokoiji is a bad person and hates himself, but the parts of himself he hates are also the parts that make him a genius. The core difference between Kushida and Ayanokoiji is that Ayanokoiji is smart and Kushida is a dumbass who thinks she's smart. Which is similar to the difference between Kushida and Sakayanagi, who is also a character people teally like and is also manipulative and hurts people like Ayanokoiji. People want to be smart like Ayanokoiji. That's the thing about him people actually like.
Jack RoyalTea
Jack RoyalTea Aylar önce
Yeah. Double standards exist. I could list off a dozen for men. It happens.
quibble
quibble 2 aylar önce
snitches get stitches. aint nothing sexist abt that. bro was an a**hole but he aint no snitch like the girl was.
Jude Connor-Macintyre
Jude Connor-Macintyre 3 aylar önce
Every generation has a anime that seems like the second coming of Christ as a teenager but when you decide to re-watch it as a adult you realize it was kind of cringe.
Goldenkitten1
Goldenkitten1 27 gün önce
​@Joe Girard Honestly even though I watched all of Elfen Lied as a kid I remember feeling really "eh" about it and not understanding why my friends liked it. Which was only reinforced when I tried again many years later wondering if young me just couldn't understand the concepts it was pushing. But I think even though I didn't know how to put it in words as a kid I still recognized that it was 100% relying on its surprise violence and...other things factor, just make everything as fucked up as possible and someone will think it's saying something deep. It's like someone saw Neon Genesis Evangelion and missed all the subtlety, social commentary and just picked up on the shock and horror elements and thought "I can do that!" ...to their credit it worked but I think only because we didn't have much else to choose from at the time in the West.
Elli Lima
Elli Lima Aylar önce
@Joe Girard yeah, I thought it was a masterpiece and wrote an essay about it in highschool 😂
Joe Girard
Joe Girard Aylar önce
@Elli Lima omg dude when I first saw elfen lied I thought it was so good but when I tried watching it again it was horrendous
Light Yagami
Light Yagami Aylar önce
@Jude Connor-Macintyre It's been 1.4 years since I started watching anime and I have enough of character who hides his ability so the big bad bully can underestimate the Main protagonist just to get face slapped by the main protagonist in the end....
Light Yagami
Light Yagami Aylar önce
@Den Hrnz 18 and I think it's cringe by the way I read all LN and definitely LN is even worse..
JayMehKay
JayMehKay Aylar önce
I’ve made it my goal to watch 100 full-length trash anime before I go, and I think it’s because you opened my eyes
Tiago Belo
Tiago Belo 9 gün önce
God bless you you complete maniac, whoever reads your story at the pearly gates will let you right on through. Stay strong through the dumpster fire, and good luck.
lumo lol
lumo lol 10 gün önce
How is your objective going?
David Jachimiak
David Jachimiak 3 aylar önce
you pointed something out that I hated about the series. For a school that's about being the "best" and "preparing people for society" there's a serious lack of evidence or unused evidence that wouldn't slide at a remedial school run by corrupt toddlers.
Si-Level
Si-Level 2 aylar önce
well are they don't know or know but just let it slide. i though that it was genious because it just basically what written test in chuunin exam in naruto. they are saware but only care when you do really badly
Unknown
Unknown 3 aylar önce
That literally doesn't even make sense, the lack of evidence is done on PURPOSE. It's supposed to replicate society lol, in society not everything's going to be documented and used
6638t 8tw
6638t 8tw 3 aylar önce
That's mentioned in the anime though. It's a very shitty excuse, but at least they are self-aware i guess? From my memory Horikita said something about how the school never actually intended to have this ''top-tier education'' and that the exams where shit ez, but that the real hardship of the school are the special exams like the island one.
Linh Trần Lê Khánh
@Your Assistant well, not with murders and any other crimes, I supposed. But not putting on a camera is a bad thing!
Loturzel Restaurant
Loturzel Restaurant 3 aylar önce
Mother's Basement never did a Film-Critique in he Style of "Our Popcorn Dystopia" by TRvidr Some More News, right?
marie
marie 2 aylar önce
Class C's incompetence as villains is really...funny because all the issues you pointed out about how flimsy their schemes are end up being explained away with Ayanokouji's beatdown as: they are utterly no match for Ayanokouji, incapable of outwitting him because they ARE just THAT incompetent. Basically, the plot justified itself through its own poor writing, like a serpent devouring its own tail
Samanthe Mathewson
Samanthe Mathewson Aylar önce
"He just like me" LMAOOOO
Oriba NS
Oriba NS 3 aylar önce
For all the COTE fans who like the show, I can’t stress this enough. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO LIKE BAD ANIME. The books are probably great but the anime does have a lot of issues. I am personally willing to overlook them and just enjoy it, while some others are not. As long as it made you smile or get hyped or enjoy yourself, don’t feel bad about watching it. Funny roast and great video as always Geoff
Dimitri McIntosh
Dimitri McIntosh 19 gün önce
@thicc anime thighs cool like u like but it's still terrible
thicc anime thighs
thicc anime thighs 19 gün önce
@Dimitri McIntosh People like what they like
Labib Al Nehal
Labib Al Nehal 24 gün önce
@Chupa Lmfao all he said is that "It's ok to like bad animes" And nothing's wrong with his statement 🤨
Dimitri McIntosh
Dimitri McIntosh 25 gün önce
@swordyshield it's bad
Chupa Lmfao
Chupa Lmfao 3 aylar önce
@R - G - C cuz he’s smart enough to know how to act like a decent human being
Evan
Evan 2 aylar önce
22:24 You forget that Kiyotaka can't use the excuse of "tripping while being an anime protagonist" because then he has to admit to being an anime protagonist and thus his white-room dad wins.
Robb T.
Robb T. 3 aylar önce
"Using his superpower of being a sociopath" is probably my favorite Mother's Basement Quotable of 2022.
Tom
Tom 3 aylar önce
Please....heard better.
Crimson sanch
Crimson sanch 3 aylar önce
I laughed so hard 😂
Dennis
Dennis 3 aylar önce
@Alon Kishon "villains"
Michael Rushing
Michael Rushing 3 aylar önce
Followed a close second by Escaped from Secret Anime Protagonist laboratory
Daelen.C Clark
Daelen.C Clark 3 aylar önce
Remarkably common superpower.
Scryllix
Scryllix 3 aylar önce
It's a shame because the light novel really does solve pretty much all the issues of the anime.
Dimitri McIntosh
Dimitri McIntosh 22 gün önce
@Matthew Bunt the entire vid went over ur head nothing u said addressed any of the vids vaild criticisms
Dimitri McIntosh
Dimitri McIntosh 22 gün önce
@Nigel Lanjuat cote fanboys special abilities cope and tell u to read the ln or ur opinion is not vaild somehow lol
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
The light novel fixes a lot of the issues, but not all of them. The whole sports festival arc with Class C feels just as much bullshit in the novel as it does in the anime. The fact class C can get away with doing so much shit but some how if D does even a little bit of fighting back they would get in trouble is absurd, they definitly take this way too far. Like I understand the entire point is that class C is unified and will lie to cover for each other and class D isn't unified and can't cover for each other nearly as well, but it still is absurd beyond belief. It gets to the point where it feels like class C could just go make something up completely to get everyone else expelled instead of bothering to poison, beat up, and otherwise directly interact with the other classes.
NYCNitro
NYCNitro Aylar önce
@Matthew Bunt Naruto is no where near te same thing as COTE.💀They have nothing in common lmao.
R.K
R.K 2 aylar önce
@Nigel Lanjuat If you haven't read it. Don't comment.
NyschoXuan
NyschoXuan 3 aylar önce
As a Light novel reader of the series, it was sad to see how badly they butchered the anime, a lot of source material was cut and a whole novel was cut, the anime is fine as a stand alone series but compared to the LN, its like apples and oranges. Though I hope the anime brings more people to read the Novels
Jedd Gangman
Jedd Gangman 23 gün önce
I think this show is a classic example of why anime adaptations don’t need to be one to one
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
@Wastingmylifeaway It's weird, in the books at first he acts like a completely normal kid and has normal reactions and then slowly becomes more and more deadpan for some reason and the book kinda acts like that's how he was the whole time, the anime just accepts the later deadpan as what was originally intended.
Wastingmylifeaway
Wastingmylifeaway Aylar önce
@jacob norris I don't think s1 was a terrible adaptation, but the presentation kind of ends up drawing those "I'm very very smart, smarter than everyone else, I'm 12" people. Ayanokoji in the light novels comes off as very normal up until the point where he reveals himself. His inner dialogue comes off as your standard romcom protag, which also puts MB's criticisms in a different light. Especially when it comes to the early "just as planned" moments, which in context just appear like kids at the same intellectual level trying to one up each other. Also, the very annoying issue of his dead fish eyes in the anime give him away as neurodivergent, when that was not an issue in the LN. As far as events happening, S1 was fairly unproblematic in that regard. However the lack of his inner monologue really hindered the final product.
jacob norris
jacob norris Aylar önce
@Wastingmylifeaway I got a little ahead of myself there, I never watched season 2 so I don't have the full picture. It's season 1 in specific that I think people are too quick to call a terrible adaptation.
Wastingmylifeaway
Wastingmylifeaway Aylar önce
@jacob norris if you honestly believe that, I actually doubt you've read the LN. They are VASTLY superior. Of course they suffer from general light novel issues, such as, LN authors can't write dialogue for shit. However, everything else is pretty dang good. Like if you can honestly say they didn't butcher the anime when they skipped a literal ENTIRE VOLUME that was MANDATORY to understanding the entire plot of S2, you haven't read the novels.
James DiStefano
James DiStefano 3 aylar önce
Allow me to explain as a standard fan of the series. I imagine my story is a common one. I watched season one and was somewhat intrigued, but saw everyone complaining about how they butchered the source material. I then read the light novels and holy shit were they amazing. I at this point only watch the anime out of curiosity and to see my favorite moments animated/voiced no matter how butchered
SomeGuyy194 _
SomeGuyy194 _ Aylar önce
The same thing for me, It’s disappointing that the anime put off people from reading the light novel like Mother’s Basement when it’s so good
asmoking P
asmoking P 3 aylar önce
you got admit that fight scene at the end was not bad
Lil'Lion
Lil'Lion 3 aylar önce
As a female 26yr old I feel like I may not be the target audience for this show, or at least the main demographic it appeals to, but I actually really enjoy it for reasons that I haven't actually seen anyone saying. The protagonist doesn't really interest me, what interests me is the effect he has on other people. Out of the other characters I feel like Kei might be the one I identify with most, or at least did as a teenager. Throughout season 2 and primarily the last few episodes it was genuinely chilling to see how she was manipulated by someone using her trauma against her. Someone who wasn't even pretending to be a nice guy, who fed her tiny crumbs of compassion. How in her state she placed such a huge value on those and how she thinks that she's had a breakthrough when she's actually falling into an abusive relationship in a way that I have seen people with awful self-esteem do irl far too many times. How Kiyotaka's edgy boy I feel no empathy monologues are juxtaposed with the emotions the swelling music and wholesome visuals (the Christmas date scenes in particular) tease from the viewer as we are pre-conditioned to associate them with boy-meets-girl romances, creating a truly uncomfortable viewing experience. Granted I haven't read the LNs and seem to have a different perception of events to most other people I've seen in the comments sections, so I do feel like I might be experiencing a different story to what's actually being told. Nonetheless I'm enjoying the psychological distress of wanting to shout through the screen at Kei telling her to get away from him whilst she is already justifying his behaviour to her.
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
@Culius Jeasar You're right that it doesn't justify it. The point is that Ayanokoiji is a terrible person and he hates himself and his father for making him that kind of person. Ultimately it's a balance of how he's manipulative and values people only for what they can do to help him, but he also happens to be in a situation where the best course of action he sees is creating situations so that the people around him can overcome themselves and grow as people in order to be more useful to him. Even Karuizawa ends up a stronger person because of the terrible things he has done. And this is what makes me keep reading the books, it's very interesting the way the author balances this act of a bad person who does manipulative things that have a very positive effect on the people around him purely for his own benefit. And he himself being acutely aware of how bad the things he is doing are and hating himself for it, but he has to do it anyway both because it's the only way he knows how to live and also because he's in a situation where he is forced to act that way in order to have just a taste of a normal life before being dragged back under the control of his father.
Off Of
Off Of Aylar önce
To me, the best anime are the ones that make you rethink life and every decision you’ve made. This made me think if there were any Ayanokojis in my life, and whatever effect they may have had on me. At times, I was genuinely disgusted about what I saw. Such horrible feelings can only be earned, not forced.
Culius Jeasar
Culius Jeasar Aylar önce
@Sky King Still doesn't justify the fact that he manipulated a emotionally scarred teenage by using her past trauma against her.
Sky King
Sky King Aylar önce
Atleast,Ayanokouji tried his best to make her as prioritas because he want to learn more about human emotion from her
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Hei Bk-201
Hei Bk-201 3 aylar önce
What always got me are the quotes at the beginning that give off these "uhh im so smart" vibes, while its really not that crazy and the story is full of plotholes
Anime Editor
Anime Editor 3 gün önce
@Light Yagami lol , why are you angey like a mad dog dude ?
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 3 gün önce
@Anime Editor Expect for 8 to 9 almost all Japanese novels suck Just like other lose... I mean cote fans I suggest you read actual books not cheap thrills
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 3 gün önce
@Anime Editor Waste of time ? Than why the funk did you butt in In the first place clown ?
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 3 gün önce
@Anime Editor I have never heard of konorano award 🧐. What is that ? Is there a competition between wanna be cool harem protagonists now ? Kirito vs tatsuya sister lovers Other bunch of isekai protagonist?
Anime Editor
Anime Editor 3 gün önce
@Light Yagami huh dude i think you don't know about " konorano best light novel protagonist award" do you ? And i am not saying how great cote is i am just saying you my friend is just a plain hater, making any argument with you is just waste of time.. Edit : I read some of your comments and i am LMAO
SD's Network
SD's Network 3 aylar önce
I like how anime is a psychological thriller Then it skips every psychological details from the LN I hope people wouldn't judge the LN based of the anime
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
@6638t 8tw Nothing is fixed in LN 😑. I already know what coming, the uncomfortable d8ck size competition.. the whole volume is based on single exam I can't wait for anime to adapt the Same thing yet LN reader will complain
6638t 8tw
6638t 8tw 3 aylar önce
@WickedKnightAlbel basically every single issue adressed in this video is fixed in the LN, so there's that.
Phil O
Phil O 3 aylar önce
It's cool I'm not reading it
SD's Network
SD's Network 3 aylar önce
@WickedKnightAlbel judging the LN you mean? If show then I would say the very fundamental of the story has been changed in the anime The character writing, depth, detailing, development, mind games, strategies, philosophy, character dynamic, tone, complexity, character psychology, set up, impact, steaks, intensity etc are heavily changed to fit aa simple pop corn power fantasy vibe MC ayanokoji is a perfect example as if you start reading you will notice intently that how anime and LN ayanokoji are completely different
WickedKnightAlbel
WickedKnightAlbel 3 aylar önce
I'm doing exactly that because no good story can possibly come of something so fundamentally godawful that it would produce this
MATALINOE
MATALINOE 3 aylar önce
13:06 His motivation is like that in the light novel, more specifically though it's to prove to his father that there is something to learn by forming "actual" relationships.
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
@swordyshield That why he saved kusida and expelled airi after that the conversation with teacher ayankoji is called monster 😂🤦‍♂️ to make him look cool and evil genius.. mind it, It happens in Volume volume 16
swordyshield
swordyshield 3 aylar önce
@Pasindu Dinusha yes that's the point. That's his "white room" persona which is meant to defend himself which is what views people as pawns, he does not actually think like that in average day to day life unless he is threatened.
Pasindu Dinusha
Pasindu Dinusha 3 aylar önce
Doesn't that make his line about other people being pawns in his plans meaningless?
ʘland
ʘland Aylar önce
I watched it on the Japanese netflix... It didn't have any subtitles :C... But I kept going, cause I wanted to get it off of my mental "to watch list"... It still pissed me off though, due to how long some shots were held and all that, with nothing really happening, especially the standard stuff... P.S. I don't think your interpretation is a 30 year old interpretation, cause I'm 20 and I still hated it... Maybe the reason teens like this anime is cause of... well, developing frontal lobes?
TwoFinePfysche
TwoFinePfysche 3 aylar önce
I read the light novels after the first season because I enjoyed it alright and wanted to see where the story went. I remember reading a lot of them, well beyond what was officially translated, and tearing through them quickly. Five years later I don't remember much of what the light novels had, I like to imagine a lot of it was good, I like to imagine I have good taste. But now the only scene I remember from the light novels is one where all the guys have a dick measuring contest and Ayanokoji had the biggest.
DivideByZero
DivideByZero Aylar önce
TBF it was a tie for first place.
Sky King
Sky King Aylar önce
Oh yeah,that is the worst volume on year one.
jacob norris
jacob norris 2 aylar önce
I don't care what anyone says the CotE bath dick size competition chapter is objectively the best thing to have happened to fiction.
Flow Flower
Flow Flower 2 aylar önce
.... really?
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
@Broadbull, Enabler of Uncounted Combos And that episode will get a lot of hate without a doubt since it's so uncomfortable ep,. Also that whole volume was based on boring exam I don't know what they were doing.. after the anime is adapted I know people will complain how bad it is when it's literally the same..
I Am Literally Deranged
I was literally waiting for the opening to be a gag where you go "Wait, sorry, wrong script. That was Baka and Test" and was thoroughly SHOCKED when that was not the case. I was waiting for the punchline right up until you actually mentioned Baka and Test
Scooter Liar
Scooter Liar 3 aylar önce
Just read the LN. I initially watched the anime and I thought it was pretty mid. I didn’t really feel like I will enjoy reading light novels(in general) so I didn’t give it a try. But when I did it was amazing. There’s a reason why it’s one of the highest LN on MAL. Keep in mind that I know not everyone would love it, but I highly recommend it.
swordyshield
swordyshield 3 aylar önce
@hujimix that has no impact, the highest rated things are usually not botted votes
hujimix
hujimix 3 aylar önce
Being highly rated on a site that has been proven over and over being vote manipulated by bots means absolutely squat.
Anubhav Sri
Anubhav Sri 2 aylar önce
You have pointed out some very good flaw's Although some of them were a product of over-exaggeration (in the sports fest) and the rushing/skipping of important plot info(the shiparc especially but we can include the rest of the anime in it ) The entire school was meant to be a hiding spot for Ayano so the booby sweater scene made sense that he did not want to attract attention (but why does he draw the same attention in the race then? ....... hmmm even I don't know the answer to that tbh ) the rooftop scene had a lot more to it becz the the student council prez and a faculty was standing downstairs then...... wait THE ENTIRE YEAR ONE ENDED. The novel focused a lot more on interpersonal relations between the cast btw my personal favorite character was Horikta Manabu (Not Suzune. In fact Suzune and Kushida had pretty bad characters in the novel too [Horikta was fine in the beginning and better after the redemption arc after she was properly designated as a side character. anything in the middle was an absolute nightmare tbh]) My final word on this is --Do i recommend you to read the novel ? My Answer-- If you felt tempted to watch the 2nd season after the first one then maybe this is your type. Personally I am too deep into this now too stop now.
Maela 3st
Maela 3st 3 aylar önce
A high school that rewards students with incredible prestige for stepping over their peers in any interaction that could possibly be conceived as a competition is definitely a healthy way for teens to find their identity and place in the world. Just look at how well Hope's Peak Academy turned out!
Linh Trần Lê Khánh
@R.K what do you mean?
R.K
R.K 2 aylar önce
@Linh Trần Lê Khánh Care to elaborate?
DLH
DLH 3 aylar önce
if most teachers are forced to implement a particularly shitty version of grading on a curve you'd be at least halfway there
Uz. Criiminal A. UziAustin
I wz funna say Kakaguri but that too!
Maela 3st
Maela 3st 3 aylar önce
@SenorBaguette At every place I've worked, the best part was the comradery between coworkers. But these were small locations or inner city schools, not big offices with lots of room for moving up and down a ladder...
Mallory Scott
Mallory Scott 3 aylar önce
Lost it at "fake ass bitches" 🤣😂 Kikyo adds spice to the whole anime 😅
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Tin Watchman
Tin Watchman 3 aylar önce
So it's like Assassination Classroom, except Karma's the main character, there's no alien tentacle guy, and it takes itself way too seriously?
R.K
R.K 2 aylar önce
@watchtime Animation studio
watchtime
watchtime 2 aylar önce
@MistrBread wattt didnt realize they have the same author
MistrBread
MistrBread 2 aylar önce
@Indiana Jones how ironic that they were both made by lerche
Indiana Jones
Indiana Jones 3 aylar önce
Exactly! But Assassination Classroom is genuinely good unlike COTE.
Josh Pineau
Josh Pineau 3 aylar önce
"Technically an adult signing out from my own basement." mans went through more character development than anyone in this show.
binbix1
binbix1 3 aylar önce
I think the thing that annoyed me the most about this anime isn’t that the schemes and plans are riddled with plot holes but that I didn’t even notice those plot holes until you pointed them out. I was just going through thinking I might have missed something important whenever something they did didn’t make sense. Man I feel like an idiot
Ryuu Cat
Ryuu Cat 3 aylar önce
It's because they skip important details from the original source material.
Unknown Variable
Unknown Variable 3 aylar önce
I can’t even hate on Season 2’s plot since most of it got skipped.
ryllharu
ryllharu 3 aylar önce
For a series that sells itself on clever social dynamics, complex schemes, and assignment puzzles for the students to crack, S2 had shockingly little of all of that. Oh, you secretly recorded the incriminating part of a conversation?! Welcome to the takedown of every 1990s shoujo series villain.
C. Barr
C. Barr 3 aylar önce
Imagine how Tokyo ghoul manga readers felt
Ace92
Ace92 3 aylar önce
@Anon is No One it was basically an ad for the LN
Ela Fila
Ela Fila 3 aylar önce
@Solar Mars but after reading the light novel for the amount of volumes that shit has not a whole lot of things happen and most of the lines are ayanokoji's monologues like please😭💀
DAX PMFT
DAX PMFT 3 aylar önce
It's such a shame to see how misunderstood this Light Novel was The anime was doomed to fail since the 1st season and i completely agree that it is utter garbage, it completely made parts of the series purposely cringy and edgy The novels portray Ayanokoji in a different maner, he has emotions, he seeks freedom and is interested in knowing more about the normal life that he never experienced Again, anime had parts of the plot had been cut down completely, thus making the majority of the plot, including things from small interactions to major twists completely senseless For example, the LN explained very well Karuizawa's intentions or Horikita Manabu's reasonings for indirectly asking her sister the join the StuCo in Episodes 11 and 13 respectively In the Novel those respective scenes are given meaning by past interactions and explanations that never existed in the Anime Once again, strategies and implications have been cut off, thus making the plot shitier Moving on, as COTE isn't even completely about that, but about a abnormal boy learning to he human through an abnormal school I was about to write like a 6K word comment about this, but i realised its pointless anyway, all COTE children stans talk about Sociopath solos ahaha, while ignoring what truly makes Classroom of the Elite one of Japan's best modern Light Novels Hating on the anime because of its quality is fine, hating the fanbase because of stupidity is also fine, hating the light novel before reading it and judging it truly, ignoring those 2 bad elements about the media, is something i highly disagree with I know I sound like a generic "read the LN" fanboy, but it's just the truth 😂
Outlaw7263
Outlaw7263 3 aylar önce
I suddenly feel better knowing I never gave this anime a chance
Geracht
Geracht 3 aylar önce
I saw a reaction channel watch this and in their polls people are hyping it up so I gave it a test run if I can watch it with them. Couldn't even last 2 minutes.
JD
JD 3 aylar önce
@Outlaw7263 try the light novel believe me it's awesome you will love it it's so interesting
Outlaw7263
Outlaw7263 3 aylar önce
@zen82 thanks, I'll watch it when I have a chance
ArshyArshy
ArshyArshy 3 aylar önce
@Outlaw7263 berserk is peak ngl so that’s a W but COTES light novel is incredible, it’s a little slow at the start but it picks up fast and each volume is like it’s own murder mystery
zen82
zen82 3 aylar önce
Read the LN. Or try watch the anime Grisaia no Kajitsu. It's similar to this but it's better than Classroom of the Elite.
In The Zone
In The Zone 3 aylar önce
I can't believe Jeff went out of his way to not say "Imposter", saying "Alien" instead, now thats SUS.
kyle cyrus
kyle cyrus 3 aylar önce
I actually rather liked Kushida's backstory. There was no sad revelations or attempts to get you to sympathize with her (which is a rare commodity nowadays), it just showed how dangerous and kinda unhinged she is. It even works as a good explanation for why she's such a crap villain. She tore her class apart a year ago, it makes sense she thinks she's the goat, but it's evident by how she couldn't get attention any other way than being a pleasant doormat that she's not actually that skilled at most things. This isn't to say I disagree with your take on this show, or even that scene as a whole (her telling them was pretty contrived), just sharing something I liked about the show.
kyle cyrus
kyle cyrus Aylar önce
@Dell12 16 really? In respect to her hiding it, do note that her goal is simply to be loved and trusted by the class, her tearing the class apart is just a threat and not her goal. Just being known as someone who can't keep a secret would hamper her goal, much less the knowledge that she showed genuine malice. As for her being dangerous, as far as I know even the closest people tend to have things about each other they don't like. People learn what to not say to keep a friendship as they grow up, but humans are social, and all it takes is someone being absent for a day for their friends to shit talk them a little. Kushida collects all this info, she weaves herself seamlessly into every group while seeming innocent, and if she airs that all out people will naturally feel betrayed by those close to them and turn on each other. Kushida is dangerous not because of intelligence or strength, but because of how well she can hide her malice, and her lack of attachment to thise she spends time with. The ultimate ability of a spy is not the ability to get out of sticky situations, but rather the ability to make no one even think they're a spy in the first place. Well, that's how I saw it anyway. She's overestimating herself though, the moment she was outed she already lost this confrontation.
Dell12 16
Dell12 16 Aylar önce
I thought that being the whole big deal she was trying to keep secret was dumb as hell, it made no sense that she managed to "tear" apart the class whatever the hell that even means, she's not dangerous at all
Piromyśl
Piromyśl 3 aylar önce
Sometimes I think I am Ayanokoji. I also like to not express any emotions, torment women by exposing them to bullying, torture and sexually assault them to test their loyalty and resolve. You know, like typically deep, morally gray and complex character would do.
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
Your either joking or I am not funny enough to understand this joke
clash on
clash on 3 aylar önce
@I Like This 😂😂
Chupa Lmfao
Chupa Lmfao 3 aylar önce
I am him, we both have brown hair ☺️
Faris
Faris 3 aylar önce
ok some people didn't understand that its a joke within the cote community
6638t 8tw
6638t 8tw 3 aylar önce
@🔥elknola the doodoo🔥 OH FUCK NOOOOOO
John Salem
John Salem 3 aylar önce
Finally. I've been sick and tired of seeing this really quite bad show being touted as the best show around. I felt like I was taking crazy pills, people were even comparing the psychological warfare to Death Note.
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Oven Gatland
Oven Gatland 3 aylar önce
I was worried this would be a video about the light novels being horrible, not the anime. Glad this was not the case. After reading the novels, I can say that they were okay and in some parts great (I can’t say the same for the anime adaptation). Cutting Ayanokojis inner dialogue in the anime made his actions seem random as we never understood why he was doing things or how he knew what was going on.
Andrew Sharpe
Andrew Sharpe 2 aylar önce
My mistake with COTE was thinking it was going to be a well-written meditation on inequality and hierarchy given Ayanokoji's opening monologue. (Then I realized at the end of season one that Ayanokoji had no social/political message to give, he simply meant everyone was his plaything.) I actually did enjoy the school's points system and game theory-style manipulation games. And maybe the source material is as good as I want it to be, but the anime is poorly written, drawn, and animated. After one season it felt like nothing had happened/ the pacing seemed very slow. But I was willing to give it a second chance in the next season..... 25:29 Until I got to the episode before this part. Dropped season 2 halfway through cos I was angry at how stupid Horikita was being. Ayanokoji was giving her all the info about Kushida and Chad's schemes but she did nothing with that info?! Don't get me wrong, I liked Horikita in season one, but I had the mistaken impression she was the main girl, she was the love interest, AND (importantly) that she was smart. Now you're telling me they had a "I recorded you recording me" competition to solve the issue? So dumb. I really find it hard to buy that that blonde chick is the main girl instead..... but I guess that's a product of how sideways the adaptation has been.
Riceboyy__
Riceboyy__ 3 aylar önce
I love how there’s more animation in a wine glass shown 22:53 than the rest of the anime
TheSchokodragon
TheSchokodragon 3 aylar önce
That wine glass must be aCGI 3D model - a pretty good-looking one! Which ends up being a bad thing coz it then contrasts so harshly against the ultra-mid artstyle of everything else
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It’s certainly really sad that the whole world building, monologue, dialogue, side characters, classes in itself and exams got changed especially if u read the books and know that the strength of the story lies within those parameters. But It’s even more sad what they did to a great character like ayanokouji, a character that came of as your "typical badass edgy protagonist" has actually way more layers to him than u would’ve thought. It’s the same concept as eren Yeager from AOT, a standard protagonist u would find everywhere develops to one of the best in Anime. It’s really unfortunate that his character is contradicting himself so much in the anime, but one thing that’s even more unfortunate is for his character to be "unbelievable". Ayanokouji is in my opinion actually the most "believable" and genuine genius from what I have seen in "anime, manga. Light novel media" (death note, code geass, no game no life, kaguya sama, kaiji, zaregoto, monster etc) he gave me the most "wow, how didn’t I think of that" moments of them all. His plans are really deeply planted within the story and hints for every one of his moves are given ALSO THEY DONT JUST HAPPEN! It’s really frustrating to see things "just randomly HAPPEN“ The whole story is really lucky for the protagonist in the anime. Like how literally the most important plots just happen in front of his eyes randomly AND NO ONE! NO ONE EXCEPT FOR HIM SEEMS TO NOTICE IT OR BE THERE TO NOTICE. Classroom of the elite is one of those story’s you can’t really adapt into an anime, ayanokoujis narrating and monologue is way too important for the story to be left out, obviously the light novel isn’t perfect and has it’s flaws but it’s a shame to see a good story and characters get massacred like this. As a light novel reader the anime is a sweet extra where I can see some cool scenes animated but sadly it gives off a way too false image of the series.
Fredrickum
Fredrickum 3 aylar önce
This is like the perfect blend of anime that I hate, the type that you couldn't pay me to watch - A high school setting with characters that act like no teenager that has ever existed (Check) - Student led organizations that act like crime families, where being part of that group or class is their entire identity (Check) - An edgy cool guy protagonist that is apparently the smartest guy ever, but also doesn't care about anything because he's so cool (Check) - Mind games that take 10 minutes to explain because telling and not showing is way easier than coming up with clever solutions to problems (Check) - A large cast that is stretched so thin that we never get to see characters interact or form real bonds with each other since any screen time they have will exist solely to move the plot forward (Check) - A harem of girls that somehow all look 11 & 30 at the same time, all with stupid hair colors (Check) - A plot that doesn't demand such a serious tone, yet the characters will take the whole thing deadly seriously 100% of the time until there's a "funny" fanservice moment, which will be the only humor in the show (Check) - Top it off with an anime art style that somehow looks generic and ugly at the same time, with a candy colored palette that makes my eyes bleed (Check) ugh.
NYCNitro
NYCNitro 14 gün önce
@shahsad saadu that’s what I am saying bro😹
Artur Zinurov
Artur Zinurov 14 gün önce
@shahsad saadu yeah except tell me whats so different about them and please don't give me non descriptive garbage like "johan is cool and ayanokoji is cringe". Let see both have been brought up by the scientists for a particular purpose both extremely intelligent and manipulative psychopaths, hmm sound pretty similar to me. Oh and how did I forget THE EDGE LORD Ayanokoji's goal is to enjoy a normal high school life.... while SUPER COOL AND NOT EDGY Johan believes that life is meaningless aaaand he wants to just erase his existence huh funny how yall want to suck off Johan and then call Ayanokoji an edge lord. Pretty hypocritical.
shahsad saadu
shahsad saadu 15 gün önce
@Artur Zinurov yeah never put Johan and this edgelord teenager on the same sentence.
NYCNitro
NYCNitro 21 gün önce
@Artur Zinurov COTE cast is so large and thin in writing only memorable character is Koji
NYCNitro
NYCNitro 21 gün önce
@Artur Zinurov also I dislike koji we character because he isn’t a in-depth or complex character whatsoever. People remember him of his feats. There isn’t antag that challenges his way of thinking or his ideals and themes. Koji has no development
Andy_SG
Andy_SG 3 aylar önce
I really enjoyed the first season of CotE just because the MC was such a nice switch up from your usual anime MC. Then I read the LN and damn, it was _different_ in the best possible way. When season 2 was announced I was really hyped but when I watched it I enjoyed it a good chunk less than even the first season. Compared to the LN the characters lack all depth and nuance and so do the mind games. Every arc just felt super rushed and especially towards the end of season 2 Ayanokouji even made me cringe, and I _really_ tried my best not to, because of the little bit of internal monologue the anime does give him being terribly unnuanced and just making him feel like an edge lord. Back when the LNs for the arcs of season 2 were being translated, people complained about the official translation being inaccurate. At parts erasing some of the important sub-context in the MCs internal monologue, used to portray his character, just because of different wording. That should give you an idea of just how subtlety nuanced the writing in the LN is. In the end I can't even really blame the animators for the bad adaptation because such a story like CotE, in which the MC's thoughts on everyone and everything are most essential, providing the cornerstone to the actual events happening, seems almost impossible to adapt properly. Still, I had hoped for more.
Ougi Best Girl
Ougi Best Girl Aylar önce
I never once thought that animation was junky where tf are you watching this show
StrawberryNinja
StrawberryNinja 3 aylar önce
Also for a born genius turned genius Ayanokoji really thought that scoring half in everything was a good idea.
couldn't care less
couldn't care less 22 gün önce
@Light Yagami why, really? Who knows…
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 22 gün önce
@couldn't care less So who are you the lost kid in Walmart? Why are u replying me ?
couldn't care less
couldn't care less 22 gün önce
@Light Yagami I didn’t even watch this anime…
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 22 gün önce
I @couldn't care lesswhat you watch hantai, cheap thrills anime with op mc and big tits females character.. it's been long I am not even interested to talk now 🙂
couldn't care less
couldn't care less 22 gün önce
@Light Yagami he needed to get into this school. It was the only one with some degree of protection from his dad. How could he get his normal school life, if he didn’t even get into a school?
Hollowshield
Hollowshield 3 aylar önce
as a big fan of the series, I was hoping a vid on it would come out on this channel. was not expecting a roast, but I'll still watch it with open eyes as soon as the goddamn internet starts working EDIT: yeah I agree the fanservice was pretty absurd, but season 2 gets a lot better with that. I haven't read the ln, but I think ayano's story is more learning empathy rather than seeking it out, which is why he still goes by white room rules. kei's entry to the story apparently happened just when she really became relevant to the story, but I do agree that she should have had the spotlight a lot earlier. However, seeing ayanokoji gradually warp hirotaka into becoming his pawn is one of the coolest things I found when rewatching the series. Class D being idiots is intentional, they're the defects after all. And the mind games are, in my opinion, really fun to watch. its more about how far can they see ahead and executing those steps rather than seeing them work on the fly. for example, ayano basically set up 4 plans in a single move by getting kei on his team. getting another tooI, protecting hirotaka from blackmail, getting kei to trust him, and controlling class c behind the scenes, effectivily giving him control over half the grade. I will agree that on the whole, there's only a few that are actually big-brained enough to be called "elite". on the whole tho, you bring up a lot of good points, and do think that s1 was the most flawed, with s2 being alot better.
Kick
Kick 3 aylar önce
I feel the need to point out that I once won as an imposter in among us in an extremely stupid way: Someone saw me venting and I simply stated "sometimes you gotta let your friends vent" and somehow that worked :D
Larva Tuba Show
Larva Tuba Show 3 aylar önce
I can’t even hate on Season 2’s plot since most of it got skipped.
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akoba 15
akoba 15 3 aylar önce
It’s pretty clear in S2 they had to put a ton of work into backtracking the story beats since they overdid all the Horikta shit in S1 to simply sell the “sociopath school” LN. Regardless, I’ve always seen the point of Koji that he’s a chara you’re explicitly not supposed to model after. He’s a shitty dude that’s a product of a shitty world that results in some cool outcomes but is still fuckin shit. That reveal at the end of S1 I thought was cool because it pivots on the normal protag troupe. Like, how often to you get a protag that doesn’t care about anyone? He’s a genuine sociopath. A main character, that uses all the generic chara troupes to blend in, because he’s a sociopath with no regard to human emotions. Most of the time the only reason a character like this is written is in a murder mystery or a political thriller, never mind one that’s the protagonist of said story. That alone has kept me around and will continue to keep me personally regardless of how good/bad it is throughout
thetowerofdarkness
thetowerofdarkness 3 aylar önce
"Just make everyone else dumber than them and/or let them predict the future!" Ah, the BBC Sherlock method.
DELTA A17
DELTA A17 3 aylar önce
Thank you for directing my attention to the plethora of "How to be Ayanokoji" videos and posts there are. I can't believe they actually exist in such volume haha
Michael Bertrand
Michael Bertrand 3 aylar önce
Thank you, Jeff. I never watched this show before and I was one the fence about giving it a try, but after watching this you saved me from wasting several hours of my life on a crappy anime. Thank you and god bless you.
Javian Brown
Javian Brown 3 aylar önce
I actually quite enjoyed it, more so the first time I watched it as I was in my teens but even on the second watch I don't think it was bad. To be fair though it's because I like characters that don't show much emotion on their face and I genuinely think the other characters are interesting.
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MISOT
MISOT 3 aylar önce
I can easily say that I have an IRL friend that read the LN and refuses to watch the anime because the adaptation was so bad. The only time he actually watched was the last 2 episodes of the 2nd season because he loved the fight part and wants to see it animated.
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Konamalunu
Konamalunu 3 aylar önce
After watching the anime, I started to read the light novel and can confirm that the LN is much better. I am only at volume 3, but it is a shame he will not read it because I would be interested in a comparison. I believe that a few points of his criticism would still apply, even though they would not impact his overall opinion that heavily anymore.
TheMysticArcher
TheMysticArcher 3 aylar önce
Honestly I have pretty low standards when watching anime, but the first season of classroom of the elite was really dumb. All of Ayanokoji’s “smart” moments never hit me as all that smart. Admittedly there were some things that you pointed out as dumb that I didn’t, which just makes my dissatisfaction with the mind games so much worse. Also: I’m a teenager. You know it’s bad when the targeted audience finds it bad. It wasn’t enough to stop me from watching the series, sure, but that really says something
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awnx ruyv
awnx ruyv 3 aylar önce
What always got me are the quotes at the beginning that give off these "uhh im so smart" vibes, while its really not that crazy and the story is full of plotholes
Sativa Diva
Sativa Diva 3 aylar önce
The irony of an anime trying to sound smart and deep by using the Stephen Hawkings' IQ quote, which was actually SH talking about how IQ tests are fake and there is no surefire way to measure someone's intelligence, and that the very concept of what is considered intelligent or not is wholly subjective based on context.
badtiming220
badtiming220 3 aylar önce
Huh, I didn't even realize that people hated this anime. I unironically liked it. Interesting.
DVn
DVn 3 aylar önce
i remember watching this show feeling pressure to enjoy it because everyone said it was good. It was boring. thank you for explaining and validating why i felt nothing but pure disappointment at this. i though i was the problem
The One and Only Michael McCormick
Wait, love interest boy is a sociopathic weirdo who deliberately performs mediocrely at things so that people won’t learn his dark secret? That’s just Yoshikage Kira.
Spooky
Spooky 3 aylar önce
Yoshikage Kira is attending Hope's Peak Academy! The Ultimate Ordinary Man!
Alan Spacer
Alan Spacer 3 aylar önce
This is who saiki tries to be lol
Broadbull, Enabler of Uncounted Combos
@FierceDeity he's basically a harem protagonist at this point , prior to mystery sociopath girl & quiet girl leaving he had like 8 prospective love interests, & horikita + his cute reading buddy I'm not even counting in those 8 , & it's deliberately written to emphasize that , the animators's occasional focus on echi isn't exactly disingenuous to the source material spoiler 2 underclassmen 1 psychopath who obsessed fangirls him & 1 who's suicide traumatised & gaslit into hating him then ends up clinging to him as a coping mechanism to get revenge on the people that gaslit her & her dead boyfriend 1 classmate who he was going to 1 night stand but discarded because he figured the girl who becomes girlfriend would be more generally useful & who's still interested sakura who could have replaced class bitch as the class confident but who he manipulated into taking a fall for the class to save them from taking a hit because horikita decided to save class bitch during a time crunch scenario both opposing class leaders in his year , who both have point of view extra promotional chapters to make it seem like they might & make it entirely clear that they would the class' resident gay guy captain of the soccer team most popular guy in class who may have had a boyfriend commit self kill at some point in the past & who kinda clearly has a crush on protagonist & who gets traumatised by internal class strife but clings to sociopath protagonist as a lifeline & oc girlfriend who has big victim mentality + horrific bullying trauma and and relies on him just as unhealthily as most of the others do if not more so >.> I'm just grateful something as simple and healthy as reading buddy girl even exists with how toxic most of the protagonists relationships are , I guess clever antagonist class leader girl & living vicariously through her pupils for unhealthy reasons teacher also have semi wholesome interactions with sociopath protagonist , I guess I can also put older girl that chats with him sometimes in the possibly healthy interactions category , & frankly those 4 could all be labeled harem girls if being reductive anyway
SD's Network
SD's Network 3 aylar önce
@FierceDeity it haven't even ended
The One and Only Michael McCormick
@GX_ Silencer As somebody who loves Battle Tendency like a son, you’re talking out your ass, hipster.
Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards 3 aylar önce
When I heard this was getting a second season and the hype around it, I decided to read the manga but I got to the boat arc and dropped it the previous arcs were dumb enough and it was just more of the same.
Vahlok
Vahlok 3 aylar önce
I'm not gonna lie, I really like COTE. It's the first anime ever to get me so interested in the story and setting that I started reading the source material. Still, I'm not going to defend it. Especially not the anime. Most of what Geoff said is completely spot on. At times you can barely call it an anime. It's more of a slideshow and somehow when there is animation it makes things worse. I skipped over a bunch of episodes in the middle because of how bad it was and only returned to check out how they did the finale. At least that was fairly decently done, which gives me some hope for season 3. The assumptions Geoff made about the anime doing a lot of things worse than the light novels are completely right. That doesn't mean the story is perfect or the most original thing ever, but it's a lot better all around in the novels. Other characters get more time to shine, Ayanokouji actually shows emotion and it's not just the Horikita show. The tests and narration work so much better too and have me trying to figure things out in advance while stuff is happening. It's actually tense at the right moments. There are a lot of immature moments (there is a literal dick comparison at one point)* and stereotypes even in the LN that I could do without, like the buff black dude that only ever speaks in short English sentences or that over time more and more girls seem to fall in love with the protagonist. But I can overlook those, as I'm enjoying the rest of the story. I do really wish the anime adaptation was better, but I suppose it's no Promised Neverland Season 2 situation. A lot of things Geoff critized were what hooked me on the premise initally. At least when I first watched COTE in 2019. I am glad that I started the light novels, but I can definitely see some more flaws now. Especially with the anime adaptation. As Geoff said in the end, for me it just hit the right spots and still does. Maybe it's because I haven't seen as much of this type of story as others have. It definitely sounds plausible, considering the type of things I enjoyed back then. I'm not too sure if I'd be as hooked as I was back then, if I watched it now. *I guess this is technically a spoiler, but (I did not make this up, this is how it happens in the LN) it is actually literally truly just a scene where the important male characters compare the size of their penises in a bathhouse. Everyone compares their dicks, the dudes get excited over the bigger guys' members until the black guy comes and reveals his ridiculously large one. Then our protagonist gets forced against his will to show his and it's larger than even the black dude's of course. After all it's important that our protagonist has the biggest member or they wouldn't be truly superior to everyone else and it's also important that we know this as a canon fact.
Trazyn the Infinite, Archivist of Solemnace
When I found out about this show getting a S2 I watched it to see what the fuss was about, and despite the fact that the show is VERY flawed and not nearly as smart as it thinks it is, I still really liked it. I like the art-style, I don't know enough about animation to notice when it looked off, I liked the characters (Even though they're extremely overdramatic) and I like Kiyotaka as a protagonist because he's so cartoonishly magically smart that it genuinely loops back to being enjoyable. The whole 'sinking into the background friend group' thing for Kiyotaka was also pretty sweet and I like both Sakura and Karuizawa because they're both sweethearts. I also thought Kushida's whole "I am a literal attention whore" bit pretty interesting, even if her obsession with Horikita was overdramatic and dumb, and Ryuuen's turn around at the end of S2 felt satisfying due to his whole bit of being fucking terrified of Ayanokoji because he just wasn't playing his game. All in all, this show is dumb, but there's enough 'so bad it's good' and genuinely good stuff that makes it a genuinely fun watch for me.
Hellocrafting
Hellocrafting 3 aylar önce
I was so confused about it begin 2017's 8th most watched anime cause when I watched it all I thought was that it was the most generic "edgy" anime within it's setting
abcd efgh
abcd efgh Aylar önce
Probably because cote LN has one of the biggest active fan group who watches a piss poor adaptation instead of reading the excellent LN again
Ian G
Ian G 3 aylar önce
I watched season 1 and vaguely enjoyed it, but not enough to watch season 2. Watching this video has convinced me to read the light novel.
Hidetaka Miyazaki
Hidetaka Miyazaki 3 aylar önce
Nice you wont regret it
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Roba The Storyteller Extraordinaire
I originally picked this anime up after looking for Assination Classroom on Crunchyroll and genuinely enjoyed season 1 but was super surprised there was a season 2.
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Default Cube
Default Cube 3 aylar önce
funnily enough, as a LN reader, the sports festival arc had the most brilliant strategies used among all the stuff adapted into the anime so far i guess that goes to show how much they failed at the adaptation the conclusion of the sports festival arc was one that left me completely speechless in the LN that was simply a next level UNO reverse sad the anime couldn't do the same
Light Yagami
Light Yagami Aylar önce
@Sky King the writer always seems to leave important thing to the readers to assume, For example: instead for showing what chess pieces ayanakoji and arusi are moving during their chess match, it shows side characters praising them, “Wow! they are in different level” “They are too good” Etc etc which goes to show writer himself doesn’t know how to play chess, But ayanakoji fans think he is the best chess player beating even Lelocuh
Light Yagami
Light Yagami Aylar önce
@Sky King I asked what was the move/strategy ? ?????????
Sky King
Sky King Aylar önce
@Light Yagami more detailed version,less plothole,and actually really great plan by Class C.
Light Yagami
Light Yagami 2 aylar önce
What was the strategy in LN ?
Skylord Quasar
Skylord Quasar 2 aylar önce
One of the things that really impressed me when I read the light novel was the author's understanding of why certain people think the way they do from a psychiatric perspective. If you appreciate the psych aspects of Re:Zero, the LN gives off a similar impression.
66 Roses
66 Roses 3 aylar önce
"Never in my life have I felt this 30." After turning 30, a lot of things make you feel that way.
SparkleSparkleSparkle
SparkleSparkleSparkle 3 aylar önce
@Alyssin Williams gimme yo credit card i got you fam
Alyssin Williams
Alyssin Williams 3 aylar önce
@SparkleSparkleSparkle I would do.. things.. to make this happen
SparkleSparkleSparkle
SparkleSparkleSparkle 3 aylar önce
@Alyssin Williams Pfft just wait til you reverse to 38.
Alyssin Williams
Alyssin Williams 3 aylar önce
Just wait till ya hit 45
SWProductions100
SWProductions100 3 aylar önce
Me: 'Gladiator' is newish film, right? It was released in the year...oh...
DAKKA
DAKKA 2 aylar önce
After hearing his criticism i am nicely surprised that this series easily entertained me and kept me coming back to see more
Hamza Helal
Hamza Helal 3 aylar önce
The way I know I’ve matured in the last 5 years is that when this anime came out it was my shit. Now it’s literally hot garbage that I watch because of how funny it is.
Enomiel Lanidrac
Enomiel Lanidrac 3 aylar önce
As with a lots of LN adaptation a lot of internal monologue and narative description is lost in adaptation and while in something like Overlord it still leaves a pretty decent chunk for the world to see if just in action scenes alone its far more detrimental to a more psychological story such as classroom of the elite.
SwordSaint550
SwordSaint550 3 aylar önce
Meanwhile, I just rewatched School Rumble over the past week and continued to love it, even fourteen years later. what a good series (for the most part)!
Kael Thunderhoof
Kael Thunderhoof 3 aylar önce
I just watch Baka Test over this all over again.
Phil O
Phil O 3 aylar önce
I thought it was garbage
KhaosElement
KhaosElement 3 aylar önce
Thank god, finally somebody recognizes that being a sociopath is actually a super power.
Azure Caelum
Azure Caelum 3 aylar önce
Oh he’s definitely going to end up reading the novels 😂
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Frances Deziree Verastigue
Yes. I really wanted to watch this when I was in my teens. And decided to watch the 1st season last year (I'm 22 at that time) and ohhhh boy, I was utterly disappointed and felt like I wasted my time because I hold onto the mere fact that maybe it will get better and have a big reveal at the end. It left me speechless and thinking I should've watched other animes.
Petr Ševčík
Petr Ševčík 3 aylar önce
I watch Classoom of the Elite primarily because the kind of anti-vilain (?) that Ayanokouji is, is very rare.
Niffoni
Niffoni 3 aylar önce
I watched exactly one episode of S1, took a screengrab of a blonde guy saying "I have no interest in contributing to society" for meme purposes, immediately forgot the context, and I still felt like I got way more out of the show than most people did. When I heard they were making more, my thoughts were in order: 1) "Oh." 2) "Huh..." and 3) "Why?" EDIT: Hey, so I just saw that Peter Grill got a sequel, so I just want to apologize to Classroom of the Elite, and retract this comment.
Phil O
Phil O 3 aylar önce
@MV96 Republicans don't exactly contribute to society either
TheSkaOreo
TheSkaOreo 3 aylar önce
Oh god I was rolling my eyes so hard when edge lord MC basically went “we live in a society”.
Ben1982
Ben1982 3 aylar önce
They make more seasons of anime to sell source material most of the time, COTE is quite beloved in the light novel front
MV96
MV96 3 aylar önce
The blond guy must be a LOLbertarian, then
Lianpe98
Lianpe98 3 aylar önce
😂
Lord Tartaros
Lord Tartaros 3 aylar önce
I've sat through and read almost every tome from the LN and I can guarantee that if it isn't the most mindblowing story of all time, it is still an enjoyable and worthwhile read nonetheless. Honestly I cant remember season 1 but season 2 was decent save from the subpar animation.
BlacksteelForge
BlacksteelForge 3 aylar önce
I watched the first season of Classroom of the Elite way back when, and it interested me enough to read the light novel. The next three chapters of the light novel instantly made me hate the show and regret the fact that I watched the first season. Not reading it is a great choice.
Mookie Stewart
Mookie Stewart 3 aylar önce
That was a wholesome ending to a roast lol. He’s right though kids, you’re living good years right now trust us
Arik Audios
Arik Audios 3 aylar önce
People should read the LN honestly its almost perfect,havent watched the anime past s1
Eclipse
Eclipse 3 aylar önce
This anime gets a lot of praise for being a powerpoint presentation.
A Random Guy
A Random Guy 3 aylar önce
@Arshaan Javed when? it was one highly rated shows of the season
Kaan Uysal
Kaan Uysal 3 aylar önce
@Arshaan Javed That's objectively wrong. Most people who watch the anime give it high scores and they love it. Just check websites that rank anime like ''My Anime List'' or ''Anilist'' to see how many people like the show. Don't just let a negative video about the series on the TRvid dictate your judgement lol
Pablo Magno
Pablo Magno 3 aylar önce
A PowerPoint presentation full of PowerPoint presentations
John Veltman
John Veltman 3 aylar önce
'Scuse me, gonna steal this post *YOINK*
Arshaan Javed
Arshaan Javed 3 aylar önce
Correction: the LN gets the praise Everyone loathes the anime lol
Arshaan Javed
Arshaan Javed 3 aylar önce
A story is great when you know most of its popularity and praise comes from a novel
Grass Tastes Bad
Grass Tastes Bad 3 aylar önce
I watched season 1 so long ago, I was just as surprised to hear about a season 2 announcement. I was trying to remember, "wait, was season 1 any good...I can't remember a thing about it." Thanks for the recap lol.
just_bickers
just_bickers 3 aylar önce
I ended up watching the whole second season and it just frustrating the hell out of me. So much fluff with no pay off
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hatakenewt
hatakenewt 3 aylar önce
Thanks for making this so people will read the novel instead of watching this trash cringe fest adaptation
Christian Neihart
Christian Neihart 3 aylar önce
I am a simple man. I see a roast, I watch the roast.
cam
cam 3 aylar önce
@vivvy Excellent point
vivvy
vivvy 3 aylar önce
roasted garlic summer sausage
robbie aulia
robbie aulia 3 aylar önce
I'm a a rocket powered motorcycle with highly advance pattern recognition AI. This chain is getting weirder and I see no hints to suggest as to why the pattern suddenly changes from simplicity to small brain to philosophy in an instant.
cam
cam 3 aylar önce
I'm a complicated sentient slime mold running FireFox on a decomposing log in the forest. What's school? Who decides eliteness? Why are we here? What's the meaning of life?
The Violet Bee
The Violet Bee 3 aylar önce
I am a simple woman. This chain is already too complicated for my tiny brain to contribute.
SoySauceAsian
SoySauceAsian 3 aylar önce
This show is probably one of the most pretentious "Look how smart we are, look look!" shows I've ever seen. The constant piano riffs in season 1 and how every episode starts with some sorta philosophical quote had me cringing every time.
meixintong zha
meixintong zha 3 aylar önce
Oh yeah, I love this show, the protagonist is not emo, naïve, idealistic, nor kind. He just try to live his life and gain freedom.
Kyan Mori
Kyan Mori 3 aylar önce
At least for me COTE reminded me of how tokyo ghoul was done I watched the anime and thought it was pretty average and then read the source material and realized that the anime just got butchered. The light novel is surprisingly very good and makes that anime look like a children's cartoon
Kristanite
Kristanite 3 aylar önce
..... That reward system was literally implemented manually at my elementary school. We had "check books" and we had to keep track of our "scholar bucks" ourselves, and we could "buy" things at the "market" on Fridays.... When I was out of class for my "gifted and talented" program. Friday is also when we got our "pay checks" so I never got to do it. Anyway this school is Exactly a modern American school, just not a high school XD
PROD. A.B.I.L
PROD. A.B.I.L 3 aylar önce
"She's just Mami Nanami without the charisma" couldn't have said it better myself
Cade Thumann
Cade Thumann 3 aylar önce
I just realized that one of those despicable characters has her last name identical to the first name of Kamisama Kiss' MC, Nanami Momozono. Quite ironic how the latter is the complete opposite (a generally nice person with occasional moments of anger or spunk) to the former (a toxic and smug POS who pretends to be nice). Admittedly, a bizarre excuse for a comment of mine, but whatever.
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