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THE LAST OF US Episode 9 Breakdown & Ending Explained | Review And Game Easter Eggs. We break down and recap Episode 9 of TLOU on HBO. This includes easter eggs, game similarities and differences, things you missed, hidden details, our review and also our theories on what we think could happen in Season 2. Covering subjects such as Joel and Ellie, Marlene, Ashley Johnson, Anna, Infected, Clickers, Abby and everything you need to know about the new entry.
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Ok so the Last Last Of Us Season One Episode is now out and throughout this video we're gonna be breaking down episode 9, all the easter eggs, hidden details and also discussing that ending. First up though I wanna thank everyone for rocking with me the last 9 weeks and we're sort of like Joel and Ellie a bit because I'd doom the entire human race just to get a thumbs up from you.
Anyway we start off the episode with a flashback and this features a major game cameo. Out in the woods we join a pregnant woman running and this is none other than Ashley Johnson. Ashley voiced Ellie in the game and here we catch her playing her mother. So far several big actors from the game have popped up including Tommy's voice actor as Perry, Troy Baker as James last week and Marlene's who shows up later on in this scene.
Ellies mother is called Anna and she was first mentioned in the last of us comic American Dreams.
This featured Ellie and Riley and in it we learned a little bit about Anna and what she did before the outbreak.
Anna worked as a nurse before the outbreak and we know that she and her lifelong friend Marlene survived together when everything went down worse than this channels views next week.
All that we learned from the backstroy was that she died within a day of giving birth to Ellie but here we see it fleshed out with her running to a farmhouse being chased by an infected person. We can see a big symbol for the fireflies denoting that this is a safehouse and you can also catch what I'm guessing is the Boston QZ in the background. As we know this was controlled by Fedra and though we don't learn why Anna's out on her own like this it likely has something to do with the infected.
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Heavy Spoilers
Heavy Spoilers 2 aylar önce
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Joe Blow
Joe Blow 2 aylar önce
Show was whhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaàackkk
Rohan Asuthkar
Rohan Asuthkar 2 aylar önce
The Last of US was heavily inspired from the 2006 film "Children of Men' and both have a similiar birth scene.
Anya Getman
Anya Getman 2 aylar önce
I watched the podcast first but you were next!!!
Travel Addict
Travel Addict 2 aylar önce
@Rohan Asuthkar i was about to say too!
Mandalorian Gamez
Mandalorian Gamez 2 aylar önce
Paul you seem like an awesome bloke to grab a pint with. Keep up the great work Mate you rock!!!
chillyschleemies 2 aylar önce
I think the only person who could persuade Joel to give Ellie's life is Ellie herself. If Marlene let them have a proper goodbye I'm sure Ellie would bravely give her life and maybe Joel doesn't go on a murderous rampage.
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Ruthie Bella
Ruthie Bella 2 aylar önce
Very true
Pablo Gómez
Pablo Gómez 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota you again
The ADHD Tarot
The ADHD Tarot 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota You seem like fun 🥱
Snake Shadows
Snake Shadows 2 aylar önce
The ending reminds me of a very valid point: Neither Joel nor the Fireflies gave Ellie a choice. The Fireflies were gonna operate on her without telling her she would die. And Joel lied to her after he saved her. Ellie was definitely determined to see the whole thing through. She was more than willing to help humanity find a cure. If the Fireflies had actually talked to her, she would have likely accepted it. Joel wasn't in the wrong for saving Ellie's life. The Fireflies weren't in the wrong for trying to find a cure. But if they had listened to her instead of choosing for her, the whole thing could have gone in a different direction.
TwistedTB 2 aylar önce
Yeah seems like they needed to get informed consent from Ellie, and maybe let her discuss it with Joel and let them have a goodbye if Ellie chose to sacrifice herself. By not doing that and booting Joel out like complete dicks they kinda brought their slaughter on themselves.
Ergun Colak
Ergun Colak 2 aylar önce
Joel, I think, in a way, also saved his own life. After Sarah died, he said that life had no meaning for him, and he even tried to commit suicide. But after forming a bond with Ellie, he had a reason to stay alive again. So he couldn't bear the possibility of losing this reason and falling back into the same void. That's why he chose to kill anything that came between him and Ellie, no matter the cost. I can't say that he was wrong. I would probably do the same thing if I were in his shoes
Jacob Denness
Jacob Denness 2 aylar önce
Informed consent is definitely an issue here which I think you’re right about. I would also point out it might not even have needed to happen, it is possible to take a brain biopsy without killing a person, it’s just a matter of having a surgeon good enough. I feel certain if everyone concerned was a little less trigger happy they might have been able to find a no dead Ellie solution. That’s were the whole informed consent thing comes I think.
lokisg3 2 aylar önce
Usually I agree to let Ellie to make her choice but not explain to Joel(or us audience) on why you need to cut her head, how do you culture the special fungus into a cure and can you guaranteed that the cure works on normal person? Because Ellie is know as a carrier or co exist with the fugus, not sure how a bunch of doctors that haven't done brain surgery for over 20 years confident to cut open her head and then what? Work on a abandon hospital with no equipment to isolate the special fungus without losing it, no lab to safety isolate it and able to produce large quantity. The worst part and we have seen it in in real life, will people take the vaccine? Probably most of them said "and then what?, can it kill the infected?", they probably won't take it as it already too late. If it during the start of pandemic, then yes and the population is large enough to fight back but now, there's more infected than living people.
Anomie Toponymie
Anomie Toponymie 2 aylar önce
@lokisg3 It's ridiculous. I know something about this because I've had brain infections. Doctors can just do a spinal tap to get brain fluid which would give them everything they need to analyse whatever is the case with Ellie and also be able to culture whatever fungus was in her system. Spinal taps are often painful but they're done every day in hospitals and are definitely NOT life threatening.
Myth 9748
Myth 9748 2 aylar önce
I personally believe everyone failed Ellie in one way or another. In the podcast, Craig Mason and Ashley Johnson talk about why Anna said “find someone to take care of her” and it basically boils down to the fact that Anna never really stroke Marlene as a caregiver. Marlene is the leader of the Fireflies, a revolutionary moment, or terrorist organization, depending on how you look at it. Marlene didn’t uphold her promise to her best friend Anna, but instead abandon Ellie in a FEDRA orphanage to stay as far away from the Fireflies. Marlene recruited a young teen girl, Riley and put her in the frontlines. Where Riley happened to be with Ellie and get infected. Marlene wants to win this war between FEDRA more then anything and would rather put her responsibilities to her best friend to the side. She failed to keep Ellie safe, and she broke her promise to Anna to create a cure that wasn’t even sure would work. Desperation is her main motivation when it comes to her decision in the final episode. Desperation made her careless and empathetic to putting both Joel and Ellie on a unwindable position. People talk about how Joel took away Ellie’s decision, but so did Marlene. She didn’t let her decide on her own and say her final goodbyes to Joel. In my opinion, Joel reacted like a human being being put in a strange position where he had to now walk away after going through hell to safe this girl and get her to the Fireflies. A parent understands this decision and it isn’t even a debate, I would do the same thing to.
Sentinel 2 aylar önce
I can get on board with this. It’s like Marlene technically conditioned Ellie to have that motive she carries throughout the story when that probably isn’t ideal for any child immune or not to be ready to take a life or death sacrifice and her mom probably wouldn’t have been on board with that either.
Mikey Frederick
Mikey Frederick 2 aylar önce
Damn this made me tear up a bit no joke sir..100% every word you said is so true..people forget that not just one person deserves all the blame most of the time..
Neltins 2 aylar önce
There's so much symbolism in TLUS with barns and farm houses now
Think Story
Think Story 2 aylar önce
Only Heavy Spoilers would create a video longer than the actual episode. Well done!
Kid Astronaut
Kid Astronaut 2 aylar önce
Excited to watch your recap next!!
Are you going to cover FROM?
Kev 2 aylar önce
Ellie is probably immune because babies immune system is different than an adults and ready to adapt and build itself. The umbilical cord was cut with the knife that was stabbed into the infected and I think that's how Ellie became immune.
family26ful 2 aylar önce
Good call
huwapol 2 aylar önce
oh wow i didn't think of the contaminated knife, that's actually kinda cool
Snehil Ojha
Snehil Ojha 2 aylar önce
Dude I thought that the whole time Like wasn’t it dumb to cut the umbilical cord with the knife that was drenched with the blood of an infected but anyways this episode was great If anyone knows Please tell me when will the season 2 roll out
S1L3NT G4M3R 2 aylar önce
That was cool seeing the voice of Ellie play the mother of Ellie in the show.
Silas Hurd
Silas Hurd 2 aylar önce
In episode 8, we got to see the King, Troy Then In episode 9, we got to se the queen, Ashley
annslow41 2 aylar önce
Like poetry.
Dani Davis
Dani Davis 2 aylar önce
They resemble too.
Zombie Neighbor
Zombie Neighbor 2 aylar önce
​@Silas Hurd and the buff golf swinging, Abby.
Gino Raz
Gino Raz 2 aylar önce
@Dani Davis can't emphasize this enough!
BoyWizard 2 aylar önce
Can’t wait to see the non gamers reactions to this final episode. It’s always been one of my favorite endings.
Heavy Spoilers
Heavy Spoilers 2 aylar önce
Same, such a good ending
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
OTD Andre
OTD Andre 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota didn’t read allat
Fy 4b
Fy 4b 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota what show did you watch? Because evidently it wasn’t this one. Seeing Anna “turn” while talking to Marlene didn’t register for you. Oh wait you weren’t watching the show.
Tylor Enyeart
Tylor Enyeart 2 aylar önce
@Fy 4b How dare someone not like the show, that must mean they didnt pay attention amirite guys?!
Tiff Tiff❤️
Tiff Tiff❤️ 2 aylar önce
Watching that again, it felt like Joel was in a haze as he moved. Almost wasn’t himself and let his heart guide him. You can see the clarity come back after he confronts the surgeon.
RK 2 aylar önce
He's not meant to be "good". Never was. He's supposed to be morally grey and questionable. It's a dark redemption arc. Surprising how many people forget how controversial the end was in 2013. I realize a lot you didn't play it at all let alone then.
Shivermetimbers 2 aylar önce
I asked my husband last night if he sees Joel as a bad guy or a hero. His response was “I would burn the world to save my kids. I would have done the same thing”. To some, Joel acted selfishly, to parents, he just did what any other parent would have done
Reality Boat
Reality Boat 2 aylar önce
Joel is never portrayed as a moral hero. Just a guy we root for because he's cool and has redeemable qualities
Jryanw11 2 aylar önce
Exactly. Imho any parent would’ve done the same.
Justin Matthew
Justin Matthew 2 aylar önce
Except he wasn't her parent
Justin Matthew
Justin Matthew 2 aylar önce
Big difference he wasn't her parent
Shivermetimbers 2 aylar önce
@Justin Matthew yes but I think in his mind she literally took the spot of Sarah and I think he very much sees her as his daughter. Similar to how an adoptive parent can still have that instinct toward their adopted child. He’s also going through a lot of trauma and ptsd and she’s the first person who has made him feel whole again. That would be an intense connection that would be hard to break.
Einstein 4203
Einstein 4203 2 aylar önce
This episode was so emotional for me. Especially when ellie said "I guess times do heal all wounds" and then Joel said "it wasnt time" and looks at Ellie 😭😭😭
Alex Majors
Alex Majors 2 aylar önce
Found it interesting that they chose to make the farmhouse where Anna runs to at the beginning extremely similar to the farmhouse that Ellie and Dina "run off" to in Part 2
MARK M 2 aylar önce
Definitely noticed that too. Looks like the farmhouse after Ellie comes back from pursuing Abby and Dinas gone 😥
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Honestly, this was the worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Clint Patac
Clint Patac 2 aylar önce
Exactly! I’ve been watching these break downs of the episode, and no one’s mentioned it!
Anya Getman
Anya Getman 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota I commented similarly. They could have waited Anna out or locked her in the room, though not knowing any alternative, Anna didn't want to suffer the change.. Not sure from the circumstances if they had to move on quickly or not. I guess if one infected found Anna, others might have been on their way.
Alex Majors
Alex Majors 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota not the point of the show at all. And they absolutely explained it.
Bryan Gray
Bryan Gray 2 aylar önce
I recognized Ellie's voice actor from her grunts running through the forest, before even seeing her good!
Chantal 2 aylar önce
same! 😂 as soon as i heard her breathing i gasped!
zizoumonk10 2 aylar önce
I got choked up just hearing the OG Ellie in real life
Kid Astronaut
Kid Astronaut 2 aylar önce
Haha - I knew it was her but gamers will definitely recognize her grunts right away!!
Pete 2 aylar önce
It was so amusing to me. I recognized her grunts as well. I didn’t even realize her voice was that recognizable to me.
Hamsa Fouad
Hamsa Fouad 2 aylar önce
Same! I got goosebumps! The same exact grunts and everything
Adam Hawn
Adam Hawn 2 aylar önce
The main issue with the finale is that it felt rushed as the shortest episode of the season. They could have done an entire episode around Ellie’s birth much like the Bill & Frank episode.
Garvin Dean
Garvin Dean Aylar önce
Dude do you want people to be bored
Traci Davis
Traci Davis 2 aylar önce
The hospital scene was gut wrenching. I could feel Joel’s internal struggle as he did what he did. Pedro was amazing!
Jeffrey Samuel
Jeffrey Samuel 2 aylar önce
I like the change they made with Ellie being awake when the firefly’s found them. Marlene made a deliberate choice not to tell Ellie. In short, she lied. This makes me feel better about the decision Joel makes and the lie he tells Ellie. You could look at it as Joel stopped humanity from being saved or you can see it as it is. Within 24 hours the members of this medical community decide to murder their only sample? I mean I really find it uniquely human that our first instant is just wow someone immune! Let’s kill ‘em.
Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor 2 aylar önce
They also made it clear that they intentional did not seek Ellies consent for the medical experimentation.
izabella ojeda
izabella ojeda 2 aylar önce
@Michael Taylor yeah
Bethany Cryder
Bethany Cryder 2 aylar önce
​@kiwigirljacks she's listed as 14, maybe you can say a year has passed in the show, but that's too young to grant consent for that anyway.
TheEmpireofJudah 2 aylar önce
Actually Joel lied. Marlene just didn't tell Ellie the entire story of the procedure. And making decisions quickly would be the right thing to do since you not guaranteed tomorrow in this post-apocalyptic environment. This why they were already prepared for ellie when she got there.
G S 2 aylar önce
​@Bethany Cryder Yes genius I'm sure they still take consent into consideration in this post apocalyptic world
Jonathan Levant
Jonathan Levant 2 aylar önce
Marlene and Joel both took on parental roles to Ellie, but the difference is Marlene was willing to sacrifice her for the greater good. Really brings to question our morality when it comes to those we love.
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Jonathan Levant
Jonathan Levant 2 aylar önce
​@Mina Frota Didn't you say you'd stop watching after Episode 3 and 7?
GoldenGhost 2 aylar önce
​@Jonathan Levantyeah they did, but here they are
Hudson27 2 aylar önce
@Jonathan Levant he probably just wants attention
Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor 2 aylar önce
The reveal on how Ellie got her immunity has interesting implications. It implies that if the Fireflies were monsters, they could attempt to replicate what happened to Ellie by deliberately infecting pregnant women. Clearly this is reprehensible, but if you are willing to sacrifice the individual for the many then it's a clear expression of that.
optimusghost 2 aylar önce
Well, maybe They tried but were unsucceful.
mikel 2 aylar önce
How would that imply they were monsters when there's no mention that they tried that?
Flecks 2 aylar önce
@mikel Read that again. "It implies that *_if_* the Fireflies were monsters, they *_could_* attempt to replicate what happened to Ellie by deliberately infecting pregnant women."
Cedric Harris
Cedric Harris 2 aylar önce
But anna said she got bit “after” she cut the cord, and stressed this. To save the babies life, and to deter the fireflies from trying exactly that. I think 🤷🏿‍♂️
Jay Winters
Jay Winters 2 aylar önce
I think the fireflies made a mistake by prepping Ellie for surgery without letting Joel say goodbye to her, if they had let that happen, it might've gone very differently. If you were going to lose someone, and not get to see them one last time, and not be able to say goodbye, and not be able to know for sure that that is what they want, you'd never let it happen. It's been years since first infection, they could've waited another day for Joel to wake, let him have his final moments with Ellie and then carry out the surgery.
Yani 2 aylar önce
Yeah, especially if Ellie could tell Joel again that this is what she wanted, to make a difference and save people like Sam and Tess. Also, if Marlene was going to do that, she didn't have to tell Joel that was the plan. Though, I can appreciate her trying to be honorable, that choice really ended up screwing her and her team
Alien 2 aylar önce
Because Marlene didn't expect Joel to grow attached to Ellie. The Joel she knew was a cold and ruthless Joel who only cared about his own survival (aka ep 1 Joel). Joel himself told Ellie that she was just "cargo" when they first met. Marlene expected Joel to not be giving a shit about Ellie being alive or dead as long as Joel got his payment. When Joel woke up and immediately asked if Ellie was ok, then Marlene knew that this Joel was different and saw Ellie as his surrogate daughter. Marlene then asked to escort Joel out of their base right away because she knew he was dangerous.
Naved 2 aylar önce
@Alien well explained..
john ralph cruz
john ralph cruz 2 aylar önce
Dunno if anyone noticed, but the house Anna went into looked similar to where Ellie and Dina started their family after surviving Seattle…
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Honestly, this was the worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Julian 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota Does anyone have a golf club I could borrow?
Zack’s Rockin’ Lifestyle
@Julian anyone, would you kindly lend this man a golf club that you don’t need back?
Arbitor_Thel 2 aylar önce
Fun fact: Bella Ramsey (Ellie) does know how to play guitar, she has a TRvid channel where she occasionally plays the guitar. Meaning, she’s equipped for rad guitar scenes in Season 2
Summer 2 aylar önce
Yes! I've watched some since watching the show.
Sarah L
Sarah L 2 aylar önce
It was good but so short. I wish they had done the zombie sequence just to give one more sequence of Joel and Ellie in sync with each other and just a bit more zombies
Leslie Fuentes
Leslie Fuentes 2 aylar önce
Short indeed! Granted, S1’s are always going to be short, streaming services/TV need to see if it will be profitable.
mike Kell
mike Kell 2 aylar önce
They could have easily splited up the finale into two episodes :"( now I gotta wait another year
Mando FR
Mando FR 2 aylar önce
As we all know, there’s a budget and clearly they used it well so it does explain why we don’t see the infected so much….. now for season 2 I’m pretty sure they’ll be around wayyy more
Mr J
Mr J 2 aylar önce
​@Mando FR hopefully
MikeKabaWike 2 aylar önce
They already said Season 2 will have way more Zombies. Season 1 is world building.
Anii O
Anii O 2 aylar önce
Merle did an amazing job as Marlene. Even though the finale felt lackluster, her acting brought some urgency and weight to what she (and ultimately Joel) was doing.
Cookies. 2 aylar önce
Pedro Pescal deserves all the praise for his acting. Joel reminded me of my own dad this episode, I feel any parent would've done the same thing that Joel did. Also the fireflies being lying A-holes totally justified Joel's actions imo. They were ready to chop Ellie up and basically kill her, without her consent, simply on the basis on assumptions. I really don't want Joel to be killed in the next season, I've never played the games but I do know a bit about what's coming and I hope they find a way to tweak the story a bit.
Rael99 2 aylar önce
They probably won't. Druckmann's ego won't allow it !
Justin Matthew
Justin Matthew 2 aylar önce
He wasn't her parent and knew her for a couple months
Rael99 2 aylar önce
@Justin Matthew ...He wasn't but I guess you just missed the whole point of the storyline and everything they went through and how it affected Joel having lost his own daughter.
Hudson27 2 aylar önce
I can’t believe it’s already over. I can’t wait for season 2
Mina Frota
Mina Frota 2 aylar önce
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Brandon 2 aylar önce
@Mina Frota most things in medicine are ambiguous, to think that it would be explained at all is wishful thinking.
dakota collins
dakota collins 2 aylar önce
​@Mina Frota good later nerd 👌
Citty Kat 💫
Citty Kat 💫 2 aylar önce
@Mina FrotaDude, it was extremely crucial to the people who don’t know. The episode may not have been the best finale, but it’s still a good episode. It’s definitely not worth giving up in the series all together! I’ve played the games and trust me, it still gets better.
Ruthie Bella
Ruthie Bella 2 aylar önce
I don't want season 2, I don't want to see what happens to Joel 😭
Essenby 2 aylar önce
Love how cold Joel is killing Abby's dad, he doesn't even look at him, just a dissociated "he's in the way, ok, now he's gone, now one of you nurses unplug her and get her up." Also love all the shots of the bodies. As they said in the podcast, it's not an action-y adrenaline moment or glorifying violence montage but grounding it in that Joel is really killing a bunch of humans who were just trying to make the world better and were following orders. Makes his decision have that much more impact and of course leads us to next season and the fallout of his actions here
Essenby 2 aylar önce
Also agree: strong start, weaker 4-7 but especially the Kathleen episodes, then strong end
Sun Songwriter
Sun Songwriter 2 aylar önce
I personally found it extremely disturbing.... It's like he left his body and auto pilot took over. I get why he did it. But I'm not sure Ellie will ever forgive him once she finds out he lied to her about everything.
ObnoxiousCamoToe 2 aylar önce
@Sun Songwriter She will try
Don Winder
Don Winder 2 aylar önce
Their podcast needs more attention. It really adds depth to the episodes.
anurag neelam
anurag neelam 2 aylar önce
@Sun Songwriter I mean hey that just means the scene works, it’s meant to be super disturbing and shows the monster Joel once was
Freek Vonk
Freek Vonk 2 aylar önce
I love the opening scene I just immediatly recognized the the voice actress. She hadn't even said anything yet, just the panting was enough to recognize voice of Ellie
thetarheel2010j 2 aylar önce
Marlene was wrong for not allowing Joel to say goodbye to Ellie considering Joel had put his own life on the line to basically take Ellie across the country. Joel almost died himself.
Asante Sana Squash Banana Wewe Nugu Mimi Hapana
And he lost Tess doing it. He found a home again in Ellie. And couldn't just cut it off. A firefly should have better intelligence on someone like Joel, considering it was such an important mission for them.
R Reeser
R Reeser 2 aylar önce
Something I never thought of till just now. Couldn't doctors recreate the same situation, with another pregnant mother, that gave Ellie her immunity?
Brad Knapp
Brad Knapp 2 aylar önce
Lol that would be fucking horrific
Sun Songwriter
Sun Songwriter 2 aylar önce
I can't tell if Joel did it to save her life or if he didn't want to be alone.... It's extremely complex. Also did he lose his humanity or did he find it again?
Adam S. Meyer Jr.
Adam S. Meyer Jr. 2 aylar önce
Think of it like this: he sees her as his daughter, wholly and truly. Any true parent would tell you that they'd give up their life in a heartbeat, they'd even sacrifice any number of human lives if it meant their child gets to continue living. They'd do the exact same thing joel did without a second thought. Ellie's mom woulda tried to do the same thing. Marlene doesn't have that connection to ellie that joel does, so while she says "I get it" she truly doesn't. If she did, any procedure that could kill ellie would be out of the question. With a parent, its less of a fear of loneliness and more of this *need* for your children to outlive yourself, to survive and thrive. Its something deeply, deeply encoded into our genetics. Often times being stronger than one's own need to eat, drink, sleep or even breathe. If you were a parent and had to choose between killing all the armed personnel in a heavily fortified hospital, or lettin the docs cut up your babygirl cuz they *think* somethin unique about her could be used to save humanity? Hell, you'd kill off most of humanity yourself with your bare hands if they got in between you and your babygirl. If saving humanity comes at the cost of letting your child be cut up by some doctors, then humanity aint worth tryin to save with some hypothetical miracle cure, meaning there's only one real option you have; save your child at all costs.
mike Kell
mike Kell 2 aylar önce
I feel like he sees Ellie as his daughter now and when confronted with the thought of having to go through that trauma again he can't mentally take it so he does whatever he can to prevent it. I also feel like Ellie was catching on to this as they were walking in the woods and he kept talking about Sarah. However, there really was only one way for this episode to go, if he let Ellie die for the greater good the series would be over.
Sun Songwriter
Sun Songwriter 2 aylar önce
@Adam S. Meyer Jr. He loves her and I don't think he'd be able to live with himself knowing he let her die. And I think the discussion when they were feeding the giraffe about suicide was eluding to that. He had to save her to save himself. But that's really my question. Was he trying to save Ellie? Or was he trying to save himself? Or was it both? Was he trying to make up for not saving his daughter and used this opportunity to make things "right"? 'Cause I mean... He killed a lot of people. And shot a doctor in the head. It was a pretty brutal episode. And Idk how I feel about it still. I know he had his reasons for doing so. But Idk if his reasons were completely selfless.
mike Kell
mike Kell 2 aylar önce
@Sun Songwriter Yeah probably not because season 2 will probably be a large time gap. I hope from the success of the show they use the same actor, and maybe do a side story in between Last of us 1 and 2.
Adam S. Meyer Jr.
Adam S. Meyer Jr. 2 aylar önce
@Sun Songwriter It isn't about saving himself. It's about saving what you pass on, even if not genetically because she's not his biological daughter, but thats where the instinct comes from; saving what you've passed on. Their safety, their well being, their happiness comes before your own as a parent. Sure, you need to keep yourself alive as a parent, elsewise you can't protect your children. But if saving your child meant risking your life, or even giving up your life; their life matters more than yours' does. It isn't about making up for his dead daughter, it was him ensuring that everything in his life hasn't been for nothing. His daughter's death does have some role in that, but its not the heart of the matter. When you take on a child as your own, everything you've been through, all your life lessons, all your wisdom gets passed down to them. In a way, you live on through them. So for joel to let another child of his die, would be like letting another part of himself die. Without ellie in the world, he would never truly live again. So letting her die is out of the question in his mind, because as long as she is alive he gets to live on through her. That pain that her death would cause isn't the driving force behind him doing what he did however, it would rather be a bi-product of her death. One that you just don't think of, because as a parent, letting your child die is out of the question. As I've said, he did what he did to protect ellie, to protect what he has passed on, to protect the one thing that has given his life meaning. His safety and his life were the last thing on his mind. Then you have to throw into the mix the moral question; since the vast majority of people in tlou are not worth saving (rapists, raiders, murderers, etc etc), and only a small handful are deserving of any kind of saving; if those few are so reliant on the death of a child to have a chance at being saved, are they truly worth saving? Before ellie showed up they had solutions as to saving themselves, so it's only now that she's showed up that they have this notion of something that could save them from the fate of being infected. But what's the point? It can't save the infected, and there's alot more than cbi that can kill them, the infected themselves can kill them, other people, the environment, etc. In their haste they failed to consider one thing; if ellie is immune because of the special cordyceps that she inherited at birth through her imbilical cord; there's a good chance she can pass on that special cordyceps through the imbilical cord. If they took the time to consider, they'd realize the more ethical solution to killing their one known sample to create a vaccine, is to have her have as many children as possible to try to directly pass on that immunity, they could quite easily have more specimens, giving them more data to better understand the immunity. If one of her children is stillborn/dies (without their intervention) then they have the perfect specimen to attempt an extraction on. If that fails they have ellie keep having as many babies as possible, and they have her daughters have as many children as they can as well, and so on and so forth until their entirely population is matrilineally descended from ellie, giving them all immunity, and by that time enough of them would've died that if a vaccine was possible, they'd have done it. Instead of considering this solution they thought that rushing to kill a child under false pretenses, without her expressed consent was the best option. Ellie has as much of a right to live as anyone else, arguably even more so. By saving her, joel unintentionally allowed her the option to make that decision; do it the smart way, or live her own life how she wants to.
KOTF 2 aylar önce
This episode was everything I expected it to be which is a good thing yet somehow didn’t emotionally hit the way it should have.
Richard Roy
Richard Roy 2 aylar önce
This series is bland. They made it hard to connect with anyone.
KOTF 2 aylar önce
@Richard Roy I wouldn’t go that far but it definitely misses the mark from time to time
RaymondJacob0922 2 aylar önce
i think we all agree and wanted more darn zombies. so yeah bummed out it was just a talking show....
KOTF 2 aylar önce
@RaymondJacob0922 yeah I understood the reason for them not being in every episode all the time but to only see one clicker every other episode was quite lack luster. When we did see them I was impressed how terrifying they actually were and it’s a bummer how little we got to see them at the end of it all.
Joanna Barnard
Joanna Barnard 2 aylar önce
Agreed. I've feel the same. There seems to be something missing. It maybe be because I've watched it weekly and it looses momentum. Be interesting to see.if it feels different when watched all in one go.
Pimplimp Gaming
Pimplimp Gaming 2 aylar önce
I loved how Joel killed a firefly with Ellies knife so cool
Real Cash Tok
Real Cash Tok 2 aylar önce
That guy probably had no idea what was going on?
vanthursday 2 aylar önce
chrishellize 2 aylar önce
Since becoming a parent I realised that in many ways it brings out the worst in you. Joel did what any parent would do, sacrifice everyone to save his child. My husband and I were encouraging him with every kill in the hospital!! :D Loved the finale!
Mondo Geckos Exotics and Oddities
They did a great job showcasing the natural beauty of Alberta in this season. I recognized several spots. might have to do a TLOU pilgrimage this summer lol
pat kelly
pat kelly 2 aylar önce
Dude that sounds sick. I'm definitely doing some major hikes/adventures this spring/summer.
Anthony Moreno Sorto
Anthony Moreno Sorto 2 aylar önce
I wanted the hospital scene to be way longer, it was really just a short montage, but the rest of the episode I loved and it was just exactly what I wanted
Slandur Alexander
Slandur Alexander 2 aylar önce
Your breakdowns were the best. Broke stuff down without ruining the future of the show. Well done as usual, all season long
Jake Hunter
Jake Hunter 2 aylar önce
Excellent Series. They did a phenomenal job. Can't wait for season 2.
Benni Krause
Benni Krause 2 aylar önce
I think the music is what made that sequence at the hospital where Joel wants to take Ellie back really special. Watching the scenes unfold with that dark and eerie version of the soundtrack being put to the foreground made it almost surreal to watch. As if the whole season collapsed into these very moments. With that being said, I think the season would have needed a few more of these moments, there was some unused potential. It was still very good overall
Martin 2 aylar önce
All Gone (No escape) playing as Joel goes T-800 on the fireflies was amazing. I wanted more of that scene with the score playing as Joel carries ellie.
amalgamation 2 aylar önce
Yep, I literally screeched when it picked up on the violin tones. All Gone is such an iconic theme with the sound of nostalgia and sorrow.
The Crimson Commando
The Crimson Commando 2 aylar önce
Thank goodness. That piece is one of my favorites, and I'm glad to hear it was used properly according to you.
J. J.
J. J. 2 aylar önce
Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but I'm sure they featured a brief shot of Abby as she ran from Joel while he was going on his rampage in the hospital. She is wearing her short braid, and she took off running from what looks like a nurse's station as Joel drops a couple of Fireflies. It was brief, but it had to be her.
Chris Haubert
Chris Haubert 2 aylar önce
I think she is also shown a little bit earlier as Joel is getting escorted out of the building
Karl Marshall
Karl Marshall 2 aylar önce
Man really makes you think how far you would go for the people you love, i totally get while joel does what he does, and seeing that doctor on the floor and what it means for the future, and I know it’s wrong but I shot the nurses didn’t want to leave witnesses 😢
6Pro1Phet9 2 aylar önce
I shot the nurses too when I played.
TheRenster500 2 aylar önce
I remember playing that part and i think i ended up just killing one? haha.
Karl Marshall
Karl Marshall 2 aylar önce
@Alien yeah I know I just had to shoot them all they were in the room they caught a bullet
Karl Marshall
Karl Marshall 2 aylar önce
@6Pro1Phet9 everyone was catching a bullet
Snake Shadows
Snake Shadows 2 aylar önce
Was kinda hoping for an encounter with another bloater. But overall, I enjoyed the episode. It was pretty solid, and the final scene made Joel out to be seemingly unstoppable when it came to protecting Ellie.
Dustin Farnum
Dustin Farnum 2 aylar önce
If they wanted a cure that bad, couldn't they recreate the circumstances of Ellie's immunity? It means sacrificing a mother and eventually the child, which is also tragic... But could technically be done.
MrNax 2 aylar önce
Probably could, it's just hard to replicate and probably easy to get wrong. Don't want to sacrifice unnecessary life ig idk.
Matty Boy B
Matty Boy B 2 aylar önce
Thank you for the excellent weekly reviews and breakdowns this last episode was great but the lack of infected was a bummer. I thought the show overall was fantastic but again the lack of consistently showing us scenes with infected drops it down just a notch but the amazing story and incredible acting really shines with this show. As for what Joel does, I’m amazed that more people aren’t saying Why wasn’t Ellie given a chance to decide??? That’s the point no matter how old she is. I guess the problem is that he did what he did knowing she probably would’ve decided to go with the surgery but we never know that for sure until she does it. It’s not easy to let someone just kill you & I don’t think anyone can say for sure that what she would’ve done. Need to have her decide. Marlene wasn’t giving her taht chance
Noah Jorstad
Noah Jorstad 2 aylar önce
how in the world did you make a 50 minute video just minutes after the episode released, honestly super impressive
Moon Knight
Moon Knight 2 aylar önce
Content creators such as Paul get access to episodes way in advance
RaymondJacob0922 2 aylar önce
@Moon Knight i always wondered do these people have special deals with ex: hbo, to get early access? do they work for hbo?
Matthew 2 aylar önce
They got the full series weeks ago
Bryan Gray
Bryan Gray 2 aylar önce
Marlene is actually my favorite character in the series. Great performance by Merle Dandridge!
Crystal Aguayo
Crystal Aguayo 2 aylar önce
I cant relate, but intriguing!
Alien 2 aylar önce
I like that they kept Marlene's relationship to Ellie a bit ambiguous. We are still not sure if Marlene did care for Ellie like a parental figure, or if she only saw Ellie as a potential cure and something that would bring the Fireflies back from the verge of being wiped out.
anne m
anne m 2 aylar önce
I think her morality is valid as a pov. I don't agree, but she is trying to save the world. We see how she does the brutal thing for ethical reason because of her morality with killing anna. She failed in not just killing Joel straight out. Not choosing the most brutal option this time failed her. I mean, I love Joel and Ellie, but from her point of view she definitely should have killed Joel
Justin H
Justin H 2 aylar önce
Without a doubt the hardest part about doing a recreation of a popular source material is recapturing the parts of the source that people love and I’m happy to say the HBO succeeded. Now all they have to do is take what didn’t quite work about the more controversial sequel and just improve upon it.
Daredevil 2 aylar önce
I hope they will change the story of next season. Part 2's story was not good and hated from so many people.
Nosfermarki 2 aylar önce
​@Daredevil it was meant to evoke what it evokes. The whole point is that stubborn refusal to consider where someone is coming from, even if they've wronged you, is destructive and leads to a cycle of hatred that spreads faster than any infection. Hating it just proves its point.
Corey Martinez
Corey Martinez 2 aylar önce
Thank you for all these breakdowns this season, they’ve been awesome . Gunna miss Last of Us Sundays!
Thrilling Recaps
Thrilling Recaps 2 aylar önce
Thank you for doing such a great job on this recap - I feel like I understand the characters and their motivations so much better now.
Evelyn Drechsler
Evelyn Drechsler 2 aylar önce
Thank you for all your work in getting these great breakdowns done so quickly! Don't know how you do it! Loved the 1st series, can't wait untill series 2! Cheers Paul!
Austin Montez
Austin Montez 2 aylar önce
I’m just surprised how Marlene still believes Joel was taking Ellie to the fireflies, especially when the original mission was supposed to end on episode 2.
Chazas 2 aylar önce
I wonder if no one noticed a third nurse in the back hiding when Joel entered the surgery room, you can see her only in a few shots and it is a smaller girl, which is kind of obvious that it is young Abby foreshadowing.
saedo 2 aylar önce
What we find out in Part 2 is that the longer they keep Ellie alive, the more attached they might get to her and be unwilling to sacrifice her. That's why they wanted to do it right away
tastyvamp 2 aylar önce
this last 2-3 episodes gave me mixed emotions, on one hand the performances of each and every actor are spot on and immersive but the show failed to remind the audience (specially the non-gamer one) what they are fighting AGAINST, I was hoping that at least in the final episode we would have infected gallore :D or at least a longer episode. Anyways, tks for everything Paul, this was amazing Greetings from Bolivia
Nick Brown
Nick Brown 2 aylar önce
Crazy this breakdown is longer than the episode itself
XMB45 2 aylar önce
Robert G
Robert G 2 aylar önce
James Lopez
James Lopez 2 aylar önce
FredHarefa 93
FredHarefa 93 2 aylar önce
Fr tho.... Overall great episode, but feel kinda rushed
Julia McLauchlan
Julia McLauchlan 2 aylar önce
they should’ve made it longer :(
Dashisnew !
Dashisnew ! 2 aylar önce
I'd say you missed the Abby sighting. When Joel is doing his rampage, someone with a braid goes running down the hallway and doesn't get shot, they were left shadowed so you couldn't see any distinct features as they were getting away.
CanineH2O 2 aylar önce
In the final episode there's a slight nod at Abby. Whilst Joel is tearing through the hospital he turns his gun on a faceless character who is saved as another Firefly pops up (this one is armed) so Joel has to turn his attention to him as the unknown runs away (can't see much bc it's so fast BUT it's a woman with a braid) It's all very sudden but IMO it's a nod to Abby. Could be going full schizo idk... She was at the hospital at that time.
Matt P
Matt P 2 aylar önce
Definitely her. Pedro is so damn good. I really don’t wanna see him go
eli o
eli o 2 aylar önce
I like that is not focused so much on the infected, but on the survival on a new and hostile world... full of humans and difficult decisions to make. Thanks for this video! I really enjoy spoilers he he 🙂
AutopsyOmg 2 aylar önce
The show was filmed mostly in my home city and it’s so much more enthralling seeing the same views as the characters. Such a small thing but it’s really cool
MiataMatt710 2 aylar önce
Very cool, what city?
HighMagnitudeGT 2 aylar önce
Same I live in Austin and it was really cool to see
AutopsyOmg 2 aylar önce
@MiataMatt710 a lot of the winter scenes and the first few episodes were filmed in and around Southern Alberta, so Calgary, Canmore, Lethbridge, and Edmonton I believe
jonathan powell
jonathan powell 2 aylar önce
I think Marlene went to the mall a few hours after Ellie & Riley were bitten to pick up Riley (remember they were taking her to the Atlanta QZ later that same day). She then found Riley shot to death and Ellie bit but not yet turned.
Bog_Guy or dragonclae
Bog_Guy or dragonclae 2 aylar önce
i LOVE the explanation they have for Ellie’s immunity in the show. it actually makes sense. given the very specific circumstances it took for it to happen, it’s a bit doubtful that its happened elsewhere
Vasileia 2 aylar önce
Thank you for those amazing 9 weeks!!! Watching your video after the episode was a weekly tradition for me and I'm really going to miss that!
Raaf 2 aylar önce
It's very clear Ellie is immune because she was still attached with a cord to her mother when she became infected, interesting to know how immunity works in this show. And that her mum died actually ads to Ellie's character development, why she is how she is. And then there is Joel who is traumatised because of his daughter, and that's why he did what he did. If only the fireflies were clear upfront, things would have been so different.
Nicole Vallejo
Nicole Vallejo 2 aylar önce
As always thank you for the breakdowns, I have love them and will en back when we get season 2. I kind of wish Joel doesn’t die 😞
Ruined 2 aylar önce
That Always Sunny mashup was brilliant. I would've died laughing if you put Batman saying "SWEAR TO ME" with Joel and Ellie at the end🤣
jsanchez796 2 aylar önce
Also, one thing, the firefly hideout that Anne hides in is actually very similar if not a callback to farmhouse in Part 2. The feed tower, the fence, the tractor in the front...only thing that wasn't shown was a barn and the front porch. I thought that was a neat easter egg Also, I love watching your vids even when there are other channels out there. What makes your videos fun to watch is your little memes and jokes and how you sneak in small puns for us to hit that Like 👍 button. It's little bits of sweet candy 🍭🍬
Father Daniel
Father Daniel 2 aylar önce
I really liked the finale especially Joel's brutal spree in the hospital. Obviously you can debate on the decision he made but I personally don't blame him. Not only would she have definitely died but Marlene didn't even give her a choice. I would have grabbed her up out of there also
Erin E
Erin E 2 aylar önce
When I played the first time, I really didn't want to shoot the doctor so I moved towards him to try to knock him out or something. Instead, Joel uses the scalpel to stab him in the neck... Not what I was expecting but I guess there was no other option for Joel at that moment. I still really enjoyed reliving this morally grey ending.
Liam Beveridge
Liam Beveridge 2 aylar önce
Anna's safe house at the start had a lot of similarities to where Ellie ends up in Part 2. Even the old tractor sitting outside.
northsidepvrge 2 aylar önce
I love the little foreshadow/easter egg of the farm house with the broken down tractor in the field because it looks almost identical to the farmhouse Dina & Ellie lived in in TLOU Part 2.
Lex Hdz
Lex Hdz 2 aylar önce
25:46 i actually think the reason they rushed the surgery was bc they were trying to start it (and therefore kill ellie) before he could even wake up so he wouldnt try anything but it backfired on them lol. also i personally agree with joel i would 100% condemn humanity to extinction for a loved one
FryV2 2 aylar önce
All of this could potentially of been avoided if the fireflies had just let Joel and Ellie say their goodbyes to each other instead of just rushing straight into the surgery.
Facemelt Loon
Facemelt Loon 2 aylar önce
My wife was so frustrated by the ending that she asked me to explain part 2 to her, at which point she became even more frustrated. I explained the cycle of revenge and the futility of fighting human nature… she became even more frustrated. It is a frustrating franchise, but that’s part of its poetry I guess.
June Cardenas
June Cardenas 2 aylar önce
Very good episode. Joel didn't go for the big lie that they could make a vaccine and were just going to kill Ellie!!! There is no cure and he knew it!! Very good reaction of a father!
Large Midget
Large Midget 2 aylar önce
You put so much effort into every video and I loved them all, thanks for making these!
Cliohna 2 aylar önce
23:14 About this part. You left out where Marlene said: "We didn't tell her, we didn't cause her any fear, there won't be any pain." Which is a parallel to how FEDRA treated the boy in the first episode, highlighting that the Fireflies aren't any better than FEDRA. That ties perfectly into your discussion here 25:09. Would the Fireflies really have given it to everyone like Marlene said in the show? It's likely they would have hit the limits of manufacturing right away (talking about drug production reminds me a little of Joel and dealing those drugs to the FEDRA guard in episode 1). That would mean Marlene and the Fireflies would run into the same decision making dilemmas as before and as FEDRA did. As well as making the decision to not let Joel and Ellie say their goodbyes. Or give Ellie the opportunity to make the decision to give her life in order to find a cure in the first place. Marlene suspected it herself what choice Ellie would have made, but still decided to take that choice away from Ellie.
Kendra Raffington
Kendra Raffington 2 aylar önce
The woman who played Ellie’s mother looks remarkably like Bella Ramsey. Did anyone else think that? As for Joel, I loved the way he went on “robotic-auto-pilot” and killed everyone in the hospital. The guy in the stairwell: Joel: Where is she! Guy: F-ck YOU!! Joel: I don’t have time for this. POW!! Joel: I said unhook her. Doctor: I won’t let you take her! Joel: POW!! Marlene: Please. Let me go. Joel: You’d just come after her. POW!! Not to mention everyone else he killed along the way to find Ellie. That was a bad-ass sequence. But he could have been a better liar. I could have thought of a million things to tell Ellie besides they had dozens more immune people and the doctors could make none of it work and they’d stopped looking for a cure. Ellie is too smart for that.
Nosfermarki 2 aylar önce
The woman who played her mother is Ashley Johnson, who is Ellie's voice. And Ellie's voice is just her normal voice, so you can very much hear it in the episode even in the grunts as she's running. It's completely coincidental that they look alike, but it works!
Puzzle Shift
Puzzle Shift 2 aylar önce
I think its possible that you DO see Abby, you see an unarmed figure with a backpack run out a door and up the hall away from Joel, before he shoots the guy that surrenders....it doesn't line up exactly with how it happens in part2 but would not be much of a change.
UNDEADZ4HIR 2 aylar önce
If you look closely, the house that Anna runs into in the beginning is modeled after same house that Ellie and Dina end up in at the end of TLOU2. Cool details.
AthieZilla 2 aylar önce
I believe that farm house that Anna gave birth to Ellie in, is the same house that's used in the last of us part 2 where Ellie and Dina attempt to live out the rest of their lives.
Kirsten Herms
Kirsten Herms 2 aylar önce
I agree with your rating.. I was looking forward seeing the zombie-like creatures in the current timeline each episode but I guess they didn't put a lot of budget into it lol
The other thing is that by logic, there is a chance that someone else or at least a few others might have received a similar birth with immunity like Ellie (Maybe not like for like). The other thing is also the fact that everyone is surviving, and it may be a new reality to just co tinie on the way everything is. This is a deep moral, ethical and philosophical dilemma. AMAZING!!!
tammie orth
tammie orth 2 aylar önce
I am so happy that they got Ashley Johnson to play Ellie's mom. That was a perfect fit, sad that she had to die though..but at least they show how Ellie is immune to the virus..
curiously.m3 2 aylar önce
As this episode progressed, I was wishing it wouldn't end, and that they wouldn't have enough time to go through the scenes correctly...wish they could have added more fight squences and infected hordes, this story is too good!! It needs to be savored slowly...season 2 is gonna be hard to watch 🫣🏌‍♀️💪✌️
Oscar Bahamonde
Oscar Bahamonde 2 aylar önce
Amazing review as always! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Stop Scammers
Stop Scammers 2 aylar önce
I don't really see them deviating from the sequel's story, since there really is no story to tell without Ellie being motivated to get revenge. As much as fans were pissed by Joel's death, I just can't imagine it going any other way. We we're going to pursue a story about getting a cure, as this was always about Ellie and Joel's daughter-father relationship, so the way it went made perfect sense to me.
Asuna Chan
Asuna Chan 2 aylar önce
Great ending! Although felt a bit rushed. 🍄👏 Also .... thanks for all the episode breakdowns, my guy. 👊 Also, also ..... Joel's pewpew moment were BADA$$! 🔫 Not gonna lie, if i were Joel, i'd have done the exact same thing. 🤣♥️🇵🇭
Alexander 2 aylar önce
I think it would be great if season 2 gives us the point of view of Ellie, season 3 the point of view of Abby and season 4 the combined (the fight and stuff of both).
ShadowedCries 2 aylar önce
There is actually hint of Abby in the final episode! At 31:28 of the show you catch a quick POV shot of someone watching Joel through a crack in the door as he's picking weapons off the people he kills. We will probably get the exact same shot but from over her shoulder in next season.
Doug Antelope
Doug Antelope 2 aylar önce
It’s kind of ironic, the only person who could get Ellie there safely is the same person who could never let her go. Also to your point at the end, you’re kind of right. I probably won’t watch your videos anymore until the next hot show comes out. But it has been fun and you have good insights and stuff
August Heart
August Heart 2 aylar önce
Overall, I know there wasn’t a lot of zombie action but it was still a good show and I really liked how they portrayed the hospital scene, just Joel being Joel and the aftermath and I don’t know I sort of got a villainous vibe but hey that’s just me😭
Smitty Reacts
Smitty Reacts 2 aylar önce
Such a powerful ending. Plus having the actress that played Ellie play Ellie’s mom was a nice touch. Also, Joel went full Joel in this episode. It was amazing. Can’t wait until next season
Austin Taylor
Austin Taylor 2 aylar önce
Abby was in the episode, as a shadowy figure running away from Joel as hes blasting people away in the hospital. Similar to the Dina cameo you pointed out earlier in the season. I cant add attachments to this comment, but i'm sure you'll spot it on your next watch through. also, i looked forward to your breakdowns about as much as i looked forward to watching each episode every week. Thank you for the content.
Box3r13 2 aylar önce
I think the episode DID hint at Abby being a character, there is a person who runs away from him in the hallway who Joel is about to shoot before he is fired at by a different firefly at behind a desk. That person running has a single long braid of blonde hair.
Treadstone Operative
Treadstone Operative 2 aylar önce
I am on Joel's side. There's why: 1. For all the things Ellie has experienced, she has also missed out quite a few. If Ellie saw what she has missed out, she might not have agreed to what the Fireflies wanted to do with her brain. 2. The "Ellie's sacrifice can save the world" narrative is just a claim spurned by the Fireflies. For all we know, the Fireflies could have buried Ellie in ignominy and labelled someone else they preferred to be the savior of mankind. 3. Joel has the choice to do what is best for his own interest and he takes the choice even at gunpoint. After all, the world(s) he has known never really gave a damn about his own interest. Ellie wasn't even given a chance to decide. She could have said no to Fireflies but the latter never even give her a choice to decide. To go out like that without being informed, without being able to say goodbye, is akin to The Fireflies murdering her for the chemical messengers in her brain. 4. We assume everyone who died in the hospital think the same as Marlene. That might not have been the truth. Anyone of them could have murdered Marlene and took the cure from the surgery room and declared himself or herself as the new overlord of the world with the supposed cure in hand. Who can guarantee such an event or betrayal would not happen? 5. The cure might not even work. There is just one doctor in the surgery room as far as I know. Just cut Ellie's brain up to retrieve what that doctor thought might work. Death is irreversible. A cure or a vaccine via another way is not completely impossible even at the point of time. 6. Joel was meant to take Ellie away. If not, Joel would have been killed or incapacitated in the prolonged gunfight in the hospital and the Fireflies would have gotten their way. Even with those incredible odds, Joel's determination to save Ellie is stronger than the Fireflies' determination to keep Ellie away from Joel. Destiny has decided. The ideal scenario would be to run tests on a far more extended period of time, giving everyone time to decide what is the best course of action or even newer, better options to come into the picture but the Fireflies or Marlene is too impatient.
Nosfermarki 2 aylar önce
Also! 1. When Joel explains that people who weren't infected were killed because then they couldn't become infected, a method of sacrificing the few to save the many, Ellie says that's a messed up mindset. 2. Any other choice would run counter to the theme of fighting like hell for every moment you can get with people you love. She wouldn't leave him to die even when that's what he wanted. She chose for him. 3. Everyone he's ever cared about has died or left him (everyone fucking except for her), which she gets. 4. The last of us, meaning the remaining people, are not great. The majority are awful, vicious people who have snuffed out those who weren't. Ellie never knew the world before, but it doesn't just all go back. What has prevented humanity from recovering civilization isn't the infection, but the people themselves. When people work together, like in Jackson, they make progress towards that. When they are driven by hate, revenge, and selfishness they suffer. That's worse than the infection, and spreads just as easily.
barlee89 2 aylar önce
It was a complete surprise to me when I found out there were people who think Joel did the wrong thing
Megfreakx3 2 aylar önce
The way Pedro shoots the doctor and says "Unhook her" without any emotion. Just genuine emptiness with a sole purpose behind blank eyes.... that was actually the scariest I've seen Joel portrayed. He didn't raise his voice or change his cadence, just repeated the command...geez 😰
Alexandre Lake
Alexandre Lake 2 aylar önce
Don't get me wrong, I really loved the season 1 of The Last Of Us. Some elements I found were weak, but they're few and far between. The main thing would be this: On one hand, I liked the fact that we didn't get a Joel being a terminator against the infected ( or able to stealth it's way around hordes of them. ) But I would have liked to see more of the mushroom people far in the background just to show that they're kind of everywhere. No need to have interaction, just see that they're still present and a big danger to the humans. ( because now it bring up the question why are the humans not regaining that much ground. ) Anyway, I didn't play The Last of Us 2 yet and I'm planning to. Cheers
Joe Radloff
Joe Radloff 2 aylar önce
I'm in a slightly different place than you, while also agreeing, like i do miss so many of the big infected scenes being skipped, but i absolute think this show was a 10/10. maybe if they made it 10/11 episodes they could have fit those extra infected action scenes in, but i think they did a masterful job of adapting this story into an episodic format. The original voice actor for Ellie kind of freaked me out because I could already tell it was her from just her breathing and panting in the opening scene. Everything about her vocal chords is etched into my head as Ellie and last but not least holy fucking shit Bella Ramsey deserves every award she is eligible for, especially for episode 8. the end scene with her and Joel made me actually tear up in 2 separate watchings while already knowing what was going to happen
Jarrod Davis
Jarrod Davis 2 aylar önce
I always wonder what the fireflies would have done if they gave elllie the choice and she said no
Jryanw11 2 aylar önce
We all know what a group of people who think their way is the only way would’ve done.
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