Your season 3 recap was perfect and can pretty much apply to its self to all other seasons in one way or another 🤣 "Cheryl is a vigilante.....who kills people now" "Veronica is an underage bar owner" "Jughead is the Godfather.....apparently" "Betty is the same character as season 1....so who care's" "Archie is just God now....he can do anything" "There's just too much of everything so I can't bring myself to care about anything. The story doesn't move forward, it just shifts completely into something else.... something massive happens and then in the next episode everyone acts like that never happened"
I tried googling that quote and didn't find anything (on the first page, at least) but plot twist listicles. I believe you that it's a quote but given my first-page Google results, I guess I'm attributing it to you, Random Internet Person haha.
From my experience a good definition would be that a plot twist is good if after learning about it, you say to yourself that in hindsight it should have been obvious
@Cécile R It wasnt even who killed him that was the problem, It was that he died at that point at all. You have 7 seasons of build up to this cataclysmic event and they get bodied in the span of 1 episode without having acomplished anything lol
If it weren't for Riverdale my bf and I wouldn't have our favourite joke of responding to everything with "He just doesn't understand the Epic highs and lows of High School Football." It really works in all situations.
@Sandrina Delvard you just don't understand the epic highs and lows of highschool football, that's why. omg it *is* an appropriate response to almost anything-
Maybe Roberto, like the rest of us, should have just written his kinky fanfic and posted it on AO3 instead, and tagged it appropriately. Would have saved a lot of time and money.
Conversely, this weirdo managed to take his weird kinky Ao3 crackfic and turn it into a show that will be the stuff of meme legend, so maybe he's onto something. True, that doesn't stop my sinking suspicious that we're going to find out some Gary Glitter-ass shit about him in the future, but he's definitely left his mark ... for better or worse 😓😓
I actually admire Cole Sprouse. He had to give that entire "I'm a weirdo" speech without laughing,he said it with a dead serious face in a dead serious tone. I would've lost it immediately,I can't even quote it cause I feel myself about to wheeze and laugh. That's a good actor right there.
@Summer Rose okay i actually went to look this up just now and he emotionally abused his ex gf, her tumblr username was bee-bunny. Also someone else in these comments mentioned the coleture concept tumblr he made and deleted. I don't know much about it lol but from ppl were saying it sounds fucked and totally full of bigoted opinions. If you're interested, I'm sure you can find out what you want to know about it all
@Summer Rose pretty sure he abused an ex gf and she posted about it on the Internet and was bullied by his fans to pretty much hide herself cos she was in danger from him and them... i vaguely remember it on tumblr, must be at least 7 years ago now
@Bakuhakudraws I'm glad he stood up for himself. I wish Kj, Lilli, and Camilla followed Cole's example. And I did read that when the BlackLivesMatter protests took place and alot of people were arrested for no reason, Cole bailed alot of people out of jail. My respect for him has risen.
@Summer Rose I've seen True Blood, in the beginning it's okay and by the end it's very messy. I'd call the show watchable trash. I liked True Blood, as debatable quality it is, and I'm not happy that my trash is going to turn into a dumpster fire.
@bad idea Nope it's garbage, and when Roberto is done with it Pretty Little Liars will be a pile of rubbish burnt to a crisp. That man destroys ALL Television shows. Like Ninja said,"They're doomed."
The Whole Cheryl being a Creepy Stalker could have actually been a interesting plot line. Like maybe she behaves like that because that's what she had been taught gay people are like. Her family is conservative and doesn't except her and maybe might have poisoned her perception of LGBT people as these creepy Stalkers and that's how they express love or something. Idk her family is shown not to be conventional. That could have been used a subconscious way to explain her behavior, and eventually realizing that that's not normal behavior and what she was doing was hurtful and learn for her mistakes. But I don't think the writers have enough brain cells to pull that off. I feel like they will just end u doing the opposite
you know smth that made me real mad? the actor behind the black hood mask is a completely different person from Betty’s dad. when they revealed it was the dad, I was like: no he isn’t HE HAS BLUE EYES!
With not making Jughead ace they also missed the opportunity to discuss how being ace doesn’t mean that someone doesn’t want a romantic relationship if they still wanted to have that jughead Betty relationship
The biggest let down of Riverdale in terms of characters is Cheryl Blossom. She was my favorite when i started watching the show. They could have done so much with her! Especially with her F’d up family and their history with the town. Once I saw her shooting arrows and become the leader of an all girl gang, and playing cat burglar I was like they are doing something awesome with her character! These combined with her being a lil nuts could have ending in her becoming an awesomely twisted Harley Quinn-esque character that could eventually become the next big bad after Hiram’s story line. Or go the complete opposite direction in character development. Hell, if they wanted to they could make a spin-off show on the history of her family and the town alone. But no, it all lead to no where and fizzled out without any of it having a point… By the time we got to the time jump and i saw she was the only one who literally had not done ANYTHING with her life or changed at all in 7 years i knew there is 1000% no hope that we will ever see anything done with her at all RIP
If I could make a list of fictional characters I hate, Cheryl Blossom would make that list in the top 3, next to Chloe Price and Cady Heron from Mean Girls.
Definitely agree. That scene where she attempt to drown after finding out that her family is secretly twisted in the season 1 doesn't get enough praise, it's probably where Cheryl's character felt the most human.
You know what, im actually glad they didnt make judhead asexual because we all know that roberto would have absolutely butchered the representation. He doesn't know and refuses to learn how to actually represent a community and has made very clear with his innumerable seasons of bullshit that he is very happy with what he is doing and will continue to do so.
the fact that an entire season was based off of cole sprouse deciding he didnt want to get cold at 4am one morning and just refusing to do the job hes paid for is actually the funniest shit ive heard all week.
Cole has openly said that he doesn't want to the job though so he was most likely trying to get fired but they can't xD he's not happy with the series and hjs character
It's so funny It's on the opposite side of the scale of Dylan (his brother to be clear) not being in the 3rd After movie cuz he didn't want to be (I think)
I was struggling with this show and not sure why. Your assessment of the characters and lack of plot was exactly what I needed! So now I'm going to list my pet peeves about this show. 1. they dressed too sexy for school, save it for later 2. 16 year olds owned businesses? 3. the kids just acted like they were adults, went on trips all the time. It's stuff that fits the ages of the Actors, not the characters. Finally number 1 pet peeve is Archie was so stupid! He threatened a MOB BOSS!! and not to mention a gang leader! In either situation he would have gotten shot! his stupidity was lethal! (And a SERIAL Killer!!) Rename the show Archies Sexy Death Wish with his sexy confusing friends!
How does Archie comics go from sending this man a cease and desist to putting him in charge? I really don't understand. If someone has abused your content to the point of getting legal on them, why would you ever hire them? He must have greased a lot of palms
I loved Chuck and his girlfriend Nancy in the comics! They were so nice, and it was great to see black characters written as just regular students, plus them being artists, Chuck drew and Nancy did photography. I was so sad at what they did to him :(
the fact roberto decided to erase jughead’s asexuality just so he could sexualize him, a 15 year old character, is so alarming, this man needs to be put on a list
@Giulia C. amennn literally the best show ever even though there was subject matter it wasn’t as dark (like it didn’t show the scenes of people hanging themselves or overdosing) as Euphoria or 13 reasons why .
Or when they approach the topic of Kevin Keller hooking up with older men as like a 15 year old with a shitty monologue only to later brush it off despite it's an extremely serious issue and literal sexual assault. I swear his character and the storylines surrounding it put gay rights back 20 years.
I kinda feel like that it riverdale hadn’t attempted to be a show that’s meant to be taken seriously in season 1, it actually would’ve worked well as a comedy and parody of teen dramas. The show really has it all - cringy dialogue, over the top storylines and 27 year old actors who are playing 16 year olds. The ridiculous ideas of the writers could’ve been hilarious in a sarcastic context, but since the show didn’t present itself like that from the start the audience quickly lost interest. Also this show has just been going on for way too long, I stopped watching midway through season 2 and was shocked to find out that it’s still going. It’s been so long that they weren’t even able to entertain their "so bad it’s funny" audience anymore, how sad is that
Lesbian here. Began watching Riverdale because a friend of mine told me "hey it's kinda gay" (don't judge me, we've all done it). Cheryl's relationship with Tony could be so well developed... I would love to see them grow as people, Tony teaching Cheryl about the importance of companionship and valuing your friends and family, Cheryl giving Tony a sense of security she lacked her entire life. But then... Nop, you get whatever tf they did.
I've never really watched the show, but I live in the town where they film a lot of it. The diner that they use has become a bit of a tourist attraction. The real name of the place is "Rocko's" It is an actual diner. I've seen a few of the cast in Starbuck's before.
@Syahmi Samba I saw a few of them in Starbuck's. I didn't meet them in the sense that I walked up and had a conversation. I've see the show enough just to know it was them. The most I've done is say 'Hi'. They seem friendly enough. :)
It's too bad they didn't just make Jughead into a sex positive asexual. Not all asexuals (myself included) are sex repulsed, we just don't really care enough about it to actively want it. But with a partner we love it can be enjoyable, just not something we really need or crave. But then again, as badly as they've done gay and poc representation they'd have probably messed that up, too.
Hermione giving Space Ninja life advice: JUST PRICELESS. And I mean, absolutely perfect. Plus, I love how this video has more views than most Riverdale episodes.
I totally agree that the writers are to blame for all of these issues. They're writing like it's 1960 and the show will air and never be accessible again, so the details THEY choose to ignore are also hard for viewers to keep track of. This group of writers knows they're releasing in binge and re-watch culture, and given the popularity of Riverdale they should have expected scrutiny for details. They genuinely DO not care. It's revolting.
Friendly Space Ninja laying it all down and spitting facts by unapologetically stating that Cheryl is an awful person and then listing less than 2% of the horrible things she has done is so damn satisfying.
I think the only reason I like Betty is because of how good Lili Reinhart is in the role. Same with Alice, and with Jughead because of the nostalgia I have associated with Cole Sprouse. It's pretty sad when there's not a single character I like _as_ _a_ _character,_ but solely because of the actor
Roberto wanted his actors damn near naked so badly, he improvised Jughead dying... Dude, did they REALLY have to be in their underwear or are you just creepy?
I see so many people tweet things like "did anyone else have a crush on the creepy cult leader from season 3 of Riverdale." Like we're just gonna pass over the fact that this guy was a 90s/2000s heartthrob and like yeah, of course I did when he was in the Cinderella movie. Also the amount of people my age or younger that hadn't heard of Cole Spouse prior to him playing jughead is disturbing, am I the only 22 year old that watched the Suite Life of Zach and Cody/Suite Life on Deck growing up, or that has seen anything him and he's brother did in 90s?
The hypersexualization of underage characters is very scary. I felt sick after you explained the sexualization of Archie’s character. With how many horror stories come from Hollyweird all the time, it makes me very uneasy. The idea of an old director using these young actors with dreams of a career to fulfill his own fantasy is infuriating.
You get the point, bud. Soon there will be nothing wrong about molesting a kid, and the good old LGBTQ+ abbreviation will get a new letter - capital *P*
I think the characters started out 15/16 but then aged every other year. I mean it's ending at Season 7. This isn't a cartoon, they're clearly aging like real people do.
@b o r g l e I remember when that happened I was laughing at it because of how dumb and cringey it was and Jughead dumped her right after and Betty acted surprised at that. Part of me is embarrassed for watching this garbage, maybe it was I was manipulated by the Archie Comic characters nostalgia tied to it and I was blinded by that and just like The Flash I was drinking a bottle of false hope that the show would get better in the future. But I was wrong, I was hopeful for nothing and I accepted it.
I was able to survive the first few seasons, but I couldn't deal with the bad writing and acting anymore. People are able to put up with Riverdale for so long, because it's a very good looking cast and it really is the poster child of "I ship them, no I ship them" arguments that fans weirdly obsess over. Also, you're right, people of color really were treated terrible on this show and it's terrible
My biggest criticism of season 5 is that the characters are quite literally the only people that exist. They are teachers, mayor, the gang in the town, the only other people who exist are those to be conformed into the show as simple plot devices to be thrown away after their one time usage, and the goolies. The goolies weren't good characters, but atleast served a purpose and had noticable amounts of screentime. This season, used to get beat up and somehow legally arrested by Archie because they trashed a house his mother had been renting out for years, and to bomb pops under Hiram's command. They did 2 things the entire season, but are made to be "defeating" the serpents, enough to the point where they feel threatened enough to recall members back into the town and broaden their influence. Not only is the leader of the serpents a school counselor and social worker, but is extremely public about leading the gang and any violent acts and drug dealing they constantly have going on. Archie's criminal past is not only ignored by the military, but he goes on a rampage of crimes/"doing the work for the town" ("citizen's arrests", violently beating criminals with brass knuckles, raids, etc.) whilst also being a school teacher, coach, fire department leader, and someone who put the new leadership (4 mayors) into power. It seems everyone in the show knows about Hiram's plan, criminal/illegal activity, and some have substantial evidence that they just keep to themselves, even though they all want to see his demise. (and when they eventually put the plan in place to get him out, he literally resurfaces the same episode to commit more crimes. (and... with full access to the assets the characters had supposedly taken away from him...) The most sad part, in my opinion, is that despite this video being so long and covering so many problems with the characters and show in general, it barely covers a single percentage of what casual audience members would notice in it's dragged out seasons.
"Riverdale's biggest problem is inconsistency" This also extends to the shade of red the hair and makeup team decide to due Archie's hair. I don't get why they couldn't have just cast an actual ginger actor into this role if they weren't going to put any effort into getting the color consistent.
In case you haven’t noticed, this show is weird. It’s a weirdo. It doesn’t fit in. And it doesn’t want to fit in. Have you ever seen this show have a cohesive plot? That’s weird. But now we have a video explaining the weirdness.
1:38:14 you are COMPLETELY right 1: when toni, veronica and betty saved her from the CONVERSION camp they had ONE conversation on the couch about it (barely) and then she just got up and told kevin that she was the lead in carrie and bossed him around the entire production 2: the NEXT musical her and toni break up and she tells kevin they’re doing heathers instead of that other musical and again she’s going to be the lead in it and bosses him around throughout the entire production again this is just two i can think of right now and i know these aren’t the biggest things she done but she’s does this things after traumatic things happen to her and like you said, still reverts back to the old cheryl. i adore madelaine and i hate cheryl.
You say bad dialogue but I'm pretty sure "that means you haven't known the triumphs and defeats, the epic highs and lows of high school football" is the greatest line ever spoken aloud on television
I've never watched the show, so when he started off the list of all of the bad things Cheryl did with her calling Betty a fat dumb cow i was like "oh thats not too bad, just teenaged bullying" And then he described everything else and its like wow okay damn she is awful
I always loved how Archie tried to sympathize with homeless Jughead because of his struggles of having to choose between being a football star or musician heartthrob
@BIGT251 or comparing having to decide which talent you have that you like more is incomparable to homelessness as far as struggles go? That's just common sense. We get it, you were the Jock bully.
As ridiculous as this all can be, I feel bad for the cast, really. I feel like this could become for them what Twilight became for Kristen Steward and Robert Pattinson, that it'll be so hard for them to separate themselves from this dumpster fire, that for the next years they'll just be connected to this. Idk what kind of contracts they have, but it's pretty evident they're not really happy playing these roles so I hope they can get out of this soon and move on because they are decent actors in the end.
This video is amazing, but you could’ve talked about the mistreatment of characters of colour that aren’t just black, like Reggie being the only Asian character and being basically a side kick for the either Archie or Veronica... and he’s the only main person of Asian descent in the entire show.
@Recinos_ Dani Apparently she does her own. She had bad acne previously so chose to bring her own clean brushes every day. Sad that she had to take over character creativity and direction (what colour lipstick would Cheryl wear in this scene?) and also worry about bacteria from shared brushes.
The clothes and visuals are great. The actors are also good (especially because the dialogue and the entire show is trashy). The writing is more than questionable and disappointing. It could’ve been amazing, but it wasn’t bc of the writers
One thing that I had hoped/assumed when the show started was that all the tropiness and cliched dialogue and characterization was there to have some kind of meta commentary. Like I don't think it would be bad for the characters to be these cardboard cutouts because they are teenagers and think leaning into movie stereotypes is what they are supposed to do. That could be interesting! But...it would require that to have payoff and development for it to work. You ask why people keep giving him shows? Because he knows the right people and is entrenched in the system and never loses anyone (enough) money that they aren't willing to give him another shot. And it really sucks that that's how much of the film and tv industry works, but making good art or telling compelling stories isn't the first priority for the people who give the go ahead on projects.
things that i would change if i was riverdale’s show runner: the friend group would be more cohesive, kevin would be actually apart of it as i would’ve made him the balancing voice of reason in the group, and the 5 of them would work on solving season plot issues together instead of varchie solving one mystery while bughead solved a completely separate one. the “hey breakfast club” bleacher scene was memorable and this cast had potential to be written as an iconic on screen friend group cheryl would’ve been my anti hero of the series. i would make her a tool taken advtange of by antagonists in the first couple seasons but eventually the main group would bring her to the light, so she’d eventually be helpful to the main 5 but is the character that will make sacrifices no one else will. this would make her an accurate parallel to my version of veronica as she would be the ice queen willing to cross the line to get a task done, while veronica is the ice queen who wants to shed that mindset in hope that she can put herself on a better path (playing into the concept that veronica wants to be better and rid her darker impulses) TONI SHOULDVE BEEN HEAD SERPENT. PERIOD. her arch should’ve been about the highs and lows of taking back the south side serpents and reforming them in her image. jughead and her would’ve formed a sibling like bond as jughead would use his father mistakes as guidance to toni’s regime, not him taking over the serpents himself. Josie should’ve gotten a spin-off where she ends up at some type of competitive boarding school where the faculty is shady, like 2021 gossip girl but done right. josie should’ve just been given her own arch so she could become the artist she always wanted while being a hero in common riverdale verse fashion
No joke I subbed after this vid because I've never heard anyone be as passionate about storytelling and good writing as I am, and passion like that instead of indifference to mediocrity is incredibly refreshing. Great vid, love the personality that shows through!
can we also aknowledge how its made a big thing in the plot that betty and archie are next door neighbours and the fact there are many scenes of their windows being next to each other.Its a big part of the plot BUT THEIR HOUSES ARENT ACTUALLY NEXT TO EACH OTHER. I cant believe I didnt notice but when you see shots of archie's house, the writers have no intention of hiding the other houses next door LMAO
Every actor in this show is giving 200% but the writing is so awful that it completely undercuts their performance. You can tell in the interviews that Lili Rienhart is taking the time off set to look deep into her character and to find motivations that aren’t explicitly spelled out in the script. That’s something not every actor knows how to do or even considers doing. It’s what makes a great actor. It’s so heartbreaking that this is the role she will be known for for a very long time and she will have to work extremely hard to create a new reputation for herself.
I mean, Kristen Stewart did it, so I have hope for Lili yet. To be fair, Twilight has a lot more merit than Riverdale, but there was a point in time where Twilight had the same kind of notoriety that Riverdale does now imo
@Jordan Levitt lmao tbf by that point they had had 4 seasons worth of moral fibre beaten out of them by the writers. I would have lost my give-a-fuck after season 2.
i honestly think it is sad that hedwig, an incredible musical, is being introduced to so many people through the absolute train wreck that was that episode of riverdale. the musical itself is amazing. the arrangements and performances of the songs in the riverdale episode are infuriating to me. y'all should give the john cameron mitchell or nph versions a listen. it is a beautifully told queer story with some banger tunes.
Never has a show needed to have been cancelled so badly. Perfect shows have been cancelled but this exercise in absurdist writing is still around. I am just dumbfounded by it. It pays the bills I guess for the people employed through it. That is the only saving grace..
1:04:53 in season 6 he actually gets superpowers to become invincible, is often said to be unkillable, and can no longer lose a fight.... he can take on a whole gang with weapons using just his hands and not get a single scratch cause he now has powers
@MakiMaki I’ve found some good stories in there but I had to dig through a lot of self insert overpowered my crap it was like one story in a landfill of that shit
@Phily GsSteak from my understanding a bunch of pre-teens making rpf fanfic of their favorite boy bands or sometimes fanfic of creepy pasta characters, I think the operative part for dig in this video is pre-teens writing self insert romance fics
I think one of the worst things about riverdale is that the occasions that happen does not impact characters' psychology at all. As you mentioned as well, Betty's father gets shot in front of her. Even though he is an awful person or whatever, she has to be sad because he is her father after all. And Archie has been in prison dude! And Cheryl. She's been through something how does she get over it. We never see it. (I think I don't wanna accept the fact that it is a bad show though. Since I really liked it and everything)
I also think the Memoriam episode is the best episode of the entire show; it genuinely makes me emotional and I'm glad that they were able to write a good ending for Fred Andrews in the face of Luke Perry's unfortunate & untimely passing. Spoilers, I guess: In terms of the rest of the show, it literally got so much worse and sloppier in the rest of season 5 and beginning of season 6 (Rivervale episodes) LMAO. In season 5, when Kevin talks to his dad about his mother and it's revealed/implied that Kevin has been going to the woods to hook up with dudes since like MIDDLE SCHOOL??? I haven't watched the ep since it aired but I remember being utterly floored by that 🤢 Also some of the editing is just SO SLOPPY like when Uncle Frank's mercenary guy shows up to attack Archie (I think) and Archie like smacks him with a cast-iron pan and like the SOUND EFFECT & cut between camera angles is unintentionally HILARIOUS. And in Rivervale, when Cheryl murders Fang with an AXE like Lizzie Borden and THE AXE LITERALLY BOUNCES OFF OF HIS CHEST, THE CAMERA ANGLE CHANGES, AND BLOOD SPLATTERS EVERYWHERE. I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY DIDN'T CUT BEFORE THE AXE VISIBLY BOUNCES OFF OF FANG'S TORSO!!!!!!!!
2:21:00 THANK YOU this is exactly how i feel, all these actors that looks nothing like we did in high school that do shit we never did, never show what goes through our heads during that time
No lie the more I hear about riverdale, the more I actually wanna watch the madness unveil. I also find the concept of a show having a pretty ordinary first season, only for the rest to be a complete dumpster fire to be amazing. That’s really like somebody one day is just having an ordinary day, only for the next day to find themselves in borderlands. I honestly think that’s awesome.
“I dropped out in the 4th grade, to run drugs, to support my nana” Archie: “that means you don’t know the triumphs and defeats, the epic highs and lows of high school football” broooooo that’s probably the funniest line in the show. Like I know it hurt him to say them lines 😂 💀
I am in awe of the fact they managed to record the scene as it implies they were able to film the scene without one of the actors choking on their laughter or corpsing in another manner.
I think that in terms of storylines and dialogue.. the show started going downhill during season three. Plus, they had Hiram Lodge as a villain for a little too long. I lost interest in the show after season three. But the tribute episode to Luke Perry (who played Archie’s dad) was well done.
on one end, there is Zoe who played Evelyn Evernever - 27 years old in the show and 26 years old in real life, then there is Ashleigh murray who portrayed Josie McCoy - 17 years old in the show and 33 years old in real life
On the counterpart, Nancy drew is also from CW and resembles a bit of Riverdale on theses mystery murderess and teenager drama, but is done in a way that is very interesting, close to heart and the characters are very much consistent and have a meaning to way things happens in the show.
the fact that cole literally refused to take part in a scene is a testament to just how little they care, like what are ya gonna do, fire me? please do 😐
@trashpanda fr the first time this show came out people were going crazy over it mostly bc cole was gonna be on it I’m assuming, and I tried for the life of me to watch the first episode and didn’t even watch anymore of the rest of the show lol. I’ve tried to get back on it but it’s just so bad lmfao.
What gets me confused, is if he was gonna appear in the scene, who's death were they actually foreshadowing?! Or did Roberto just want to film them half naked as part of his wierd ass fantasy?!
@Julie PRJ How is it diva? It's smart. Nobody can make you do something you don't want to. I'm glad Cole stood up for himself. I wish KJ, Camila, and Lili did the same. I'm guessing they're new to the industry and haven't acted for too long.
@Julie PRJ I would rather flip off the entity of the Fandom of the show than freeze in my underwear, early in the morning, for God knows how long because shows by default need to take several shots of the same scene over and over again just for a story so poorly constructed that they would rather fake a characters death than wait a different time or day to reshoot a scene
When i watched this show, i really enjoyed it, what exactly the cause of that was will remain mystery, though even my tween self saw one big flaw in the show : The villans. I think many (especially longer shows) have their problems with villians, not just the characters themself but more the order of them. Chaotic and without reason, they just appear because we need a new antagonist. The only really long show i watched that roughly avoided this problem was Supernatural, with the recepie of them pissing many people of, and the lead characters being predictable. You just know that of one dies the other will give everything to alive them again, so is not surprising if you find yourself mid season with them fighting of a supernatural force demanding to be paid, or even worse demanding to get back what was taken from it. In other words the two little bitches won’t die, and even the devil can’t change that.
Despite it's problems, the first season of Riverdale was so good imo and I had high hopes for this show... But after just watching maybe four or five episodes of season 2, I already had enough. Yk, in watching the first season I even liked the the more unconventional way the show was built, but you're right, looking back the flaws are quite obvious.
I know I'm super late to the party, but I'd like to quickly summarize what I learned by watching this: Roberto was one of the few to turn his fan-fiction dreams into a live-action reality, and that isn't necessarily a good thing. The End.
He did sing on Disney remember they had that song where all the stars had to sing together. With raven, Hilary duff and the guy for Phil of the future and Dylan and Cole Sprouse had a small part. a dream is a wish your heat makes or something like that
@Maria Ximena Otalora Cordoba Honestly they are already very good actors, at least they seem so to me. I fully agree that they need MUCH better projects, imagine how sick that would be. Maybe they have a harder time given their background and pretty faces? They'd tend to get roles such as this one due to that?...
Wait that's how they explained Archie's dad's passing? He was in a hit and run? Isn't that the same thing that happened to a well known character on Grey's Anatomy? That character stopped to help someone and was hit?? That's all the could come up with to explain why his dad was gone? The older actors in the show deserved so much more and I'm sad that this show is now a part of their legacy.
Pretty sure in Greys anatomy dr shepherd went to help someone yes but he got into his car and then the accident happened, also it was on screen. i wasn't sure if this is the scene ur talking about but yeah
Jughead comments on channels that post music from The Who/The Beatles/Pink Floyd that he was born in the wrong generation so he can get credit from older people on his music taste to feel special.
Let's say I started watching Riverdale feeling proud of Cole Sprouse for being part of a big project and ended up watching Riverdale feeling embarrassed for him.
I don't watch Riverdale, but I loved your video on Chilling Adventures of Sabrina because that show was disappointing as hell, and when I found out Roberto does this with basically every single show he touches, I HAD to watch your video on his other show. Needless to say I'll use Roberto as everything NOT TO DO if I ever invest on screenwriting. He does the thing that I'd be the most scared of doing if I ever got to write in a TV series: makes characters inconsistent as fuck, unlikeable, with no arc or personality, and the plot makes no sense ever.
I, like everyone else watch every single episode of this show to get through my depression and laugh my ass off at something incredibly hilarious. As a writer and someone who hopes to work in film. This series is a showcase of how bad something could be.
"Roberto can talk all he wants about representation on the show, but the truth is if he can't sexualize that representation he doesn't care about it and doesn't mind erasing it." I am fan of this guy for saying this. Roberto Aguirre Sacasa just needs a good kick in the balls. I also hate him for turning the character of Archie- an intelligent, funny and engaging person to a one dimensional and dumb sex toy.
I think it's a missed opportunity not to mention that Roberto Aquirre-Sacasa also wrote American Psycho: The Musical (that is a thing, yes) AND reworked the book for Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark. So yes, I'm definitely seeing a pattern here.
Season 3 was the best. I literally do not even know what happened and I watched it over the course of like a month just recently. There was SO much and it was ALL just hot nonsense. This show is all of the unhinged parts of a soap opera that has gone on too long combined with the ravings of a twin peaks fan who doesn't engage with the material at all but instead operates exclusively off of vibes. Like it's a trash fire, yes, but if that's what they're trying to accomplish, they're doing a good job...the notion that they're not just trying to be as deranged as possible and this is on accident is what makes it scary.
The thing is I was obsessed with the first season but the as the next season came out I fell off of it. I think the first season was good but the rest sucked and now it’s just a meme. It suck’s cause I spent so much time watching and hyper fixating on it to the point where I memorized the majority of the first season lines. I think the first season will always hold a place in my heart but the rest just made me hate it. I loved how this video put all my thoughts into a video. Keep up the good work ❤️
2:17:25 I disagree that Jughead singing is out of character. In a musical everyone sings because that is part of the style. When a character doesn't like to sing it's a joke like in Tangled.
I've heard that directors who keep getting work despite lack of talent are generally *really* nice people who are pleasant to work with. I have no idea if Roberto fits in there, but it's an interesting way to think about why movies and shows get made. And how important people skills are in the world.
Friendly Space Ninja: *Cheryl is a character that is not allowed to break initial characterization. She's a character that is literally designed to not be able to have character development.* Me: *Truer statements have never been spoken.*
