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Film Theory: How Batman DESTROYED Gotham (Dark Knight Rises)

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You thought Batman was a hero...but in true Film Theory style, today's episode tells a VERY different story. Batman in the Dark Knight Rises is supposed to be the realest, grittiest Batman EVER, but there's a MASSIVE scientific and logical error at the end of the Dark Knight Rises that shows Batman for what he actually is: a REAL failure.

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NOOR DRAWS
NOOR DRAWS 3 yıl önce
What if Bane just lied about the blast radius to scare the citizens of Gotham even more?
Truth chan studio
Truth chan studio Aylar önce
What if it even worse
hcaz
hcaz Aylar önce
It shows the explosion... Definitely looks like a 6 mile radius
Παυλίνα Γιωτοπούλου
Batman would still have to go all that way away, just to be safe tho. He doesn't know if Bane was lying or not
The Confused Guy Who got the spirit
Got ham they say........
Wastelander1972
Wastelander1972 6 aylar önce
Makes sense
Ippokun
Ippokun 2 yıl önce
I think someone pointed out the big flaw in their theory: that the Bat would only be as fast as the fastest helicopter. That's the thing. It is. The film is set in some kind of alternate future. The Bat actually has jet propellors (you can see it as it's leaving the bay). So yes, it's way faster than the fastest helicopter.
Breaderik The Great
Breaderik The Great 13 gün önce
If we use the fastes plane he makes almost 9 miles or almlst 18 kilometers. With the Extra minute even 18 milds and 36 kilometers
Preston K Productions
Preston K Productions 2 aylar önce
But then where would he get his clickbait thumbnail?
Alexander Hood
Alexander Hood 5 aylar önce
It’s possible that Batman is using a futuristic technology known as a Tip jet helicopter.
Alexander Hood
Alexander Hood 5 aylar önce
It’s possible that Batman is using a futuristic technology known as a Tip jet helicopter.
Milo Scott
Milo Scott 7 aylar önce
@Galladegamer Well duh.
Harshal
Harshal 3 yıl önce
What if Bat-Copter is faster than the fastest copter?
Lady Onikara
Lady Onikara Aylar önce
He's rich, it's possible. Plus, the Bat was a prototype. They might've ramped up the speed and it was still in the testing phase. (I think it passed.)
megaduffpuff 24
megaduffpuff 24 2 aylar önce
It is a military experimental helicopter so I would automatically assume it’s faster considering it’s closer to vtol
Ishmat Zaman Pushpita
Ishmat Zaman Pushpita 2 aylar önce
The Bat copter goes 200 miles per hour so film theorist kinda goofed this one sadly but hey we all make mistakes and i still love his videos
The_Omega_01
The_Omega_01 2 aylar önce
True that thing might have a jet engine
Alex Souster
Alex Souster 3 aylar önce
It had boosters as well…
Felonius Skunk
Felonius Skunk 2 yıl önce
*You actually **_did_** forget an option: one of the reasons they tested many nukes under the ocean is for the damping effect of water (since water is uncompressable). He doesn't need to get 6 miles out: he only needs to get 3 miles out, and then dump the bomb in the water - the damping of the water would prevent blast injury to most everyone, while a large majority of the fallout would be returned to the water after the blast created the cloud and it's associated radioactive steam. Yes, lots of folks would get dead, but it wouldn't be from the detonation, it would be from after the fact fallout and possibly tsunami.*
Felonius Skunk
Felonius Skunk Yıl önce
@PleaseBeHappy *Sure it is! Assuming that "Gotham" is actually NYC, 3 miles from the shore has a depth of several miles. At one atmosphere (14 PSI +/-), water would be invisible: but every 10m (again, +/-) of depth adds another atmosphere of pressure. Even a mile down would be very significant for damping).*
Felonius Skunk
Felonius Skunk Yıl önce
@andrew leiva *Of **_course!_* *You think anyone BUT a tried and true nerd would persue 9 years of postgraduate education?*
Justin Looney
Justin Looney Yıl önce
You did your research. Good on ya
Nobody
Nobody Yıl önce
and he is the Batman soo....
M R
M R Yıl önce
pog
Ciroluiro
Ciroluiro 6 yıl önce
But you forgot to take into account an extremely important factor. He's Batman.
Dragoon Master
Dragoon Master Aylar önce
Because I’m BATMAN.
Mathew Jose
Mathew Jose Aylar önce
@Yato's Jumpsuit Yeah, the fact is, Batman is one of the most unrealistic superheroes in the DC universe
MONKEY Creations
MONKEY Creations Aylar önce
I was thinking that he would just you know have superman take it away since he can circle the entire planet in like a second.
Ammar Salim
Ammar Salim 2 aylar önce
Fair
Winter
Winter 3 aylar önce
Yes
matthewseagod
matthewseagod 2 yıl önce
Who else is here now that joker is the true hero theory?
Anti LGBTQ and furries
Don't get me wrong he is right in his philosophy but he's no hero
Anti LGBTQ and furries
He isn't a hero
Youssef Ahmed
Youssef Ahmed Yıl önce
me to
Zappy Boom room
Zappy Boom room Yıl önce
Not me what is the joker the hero Game theory?
JK Joshua
JK Joshua 2 yıl önce
Dear, Matpat I loved your video. Although, there were a few problems that popped up for instance the batcopter in the comics was a common helocopter that fit usally one but could fit two people in some forms also called the whirlybat. Well that's not the same in The Dark Night Rises that seems to be more of the batplane plus no one calls it the bat copter not even Lucius Fox calls it that (he calls it the bat) I think that a plane can go alot faster than the fastest helocopter in the world. But besides that this is a bit more minor Gotham is actually set in New Jersey not Manhattan I know that the shots of Gotham are clips of Manhattan but I wanted to adress those hicups. BUT THAT'S JUST A THEROY A COMMENT THEROY AND SUBMIT P.S I really love your videos and am very sorry for any errors.
Lady Onikara
Lady Onikara Aylar önce
When I think of a Bat-Copter, I remember Batman climbing up a rope ladder with a shark chewing on his leg. Actually, that seems to make the Adam West Batman as majorly hardcore as the others. He can climb a ladder while also involuntarily carrying a freaking shark!
The Neoreformationist
The Neoreformationist 11 aylar önce
@Ishaan Ladda But we don't know the wind in gotham.
Ishaan Ladda
Ishaan Ladda Yıl önce
Well from what we can see Batman isn't going 140 moh in Gotham. Even if you take that batcopter is fastest copter or plane he still wouldn't be going top speed at all and Gotham will still be irradiated
Andrew DeBord
Andrew DeBord 3 yıl önce
His vehicle thingy was actually a osprey or a jet helicopter hibrid which is much faster that was costomised for his needs
Andrew DeBord
Andrew DeBord 8 aylar önce
@Galladegamer a plane chopper hybrid the military uses
Galladegamer
Galladegamer 8 aylar önce
an os *_what?_*
Steelpump100
Steelpump100 11 aylar önce
@MyNameIsDark no but it still broke physics. Did you not watch the video? The best scenario was where Batman reaches top speed instantly which broke physics, so if his batcopter was fastest in the world it still would have ended lives.
MyNameIsDark
MyNameIsDark 11 aylar önce
@Steelpump100 No, he still said it had the top speed of our worldf's fastest helicopter.
Steelpump100
Steelpump100 11 aylar önce
matpat already made it so batman's copter broke physics, so honestly....he loses, no matter what his copter is made of.
Amin Mahjoob
Amin Mahjoob 2 yıl önce
The Bat has after burners and adjustable wings and diffusers so it can travel hell of a lot faster than a helicopter with propellers the Bat uses propeller underneath it to achieve lift rather than having huge wings so technically it's a plane and it can travel hell of a lot faster.
Jay Chally
Jay Chally 3 yıl önce
Funny how I'm learning more from these movie breakdown than from my science classes
TheFigjam007
TheFigjam007 Yıl önce
LoL
No One Of Consequence
Gotham may look like New York, but in Batman mythology Gotham is either in southern New Jersey, or in one iteration, it's Stamford, Connecticut, with Wayne Manor in the town of New Canaan.
An Aussie
An Aussie 4 aylar önce
@Travis Bosler metropolis is New York in the day time, gotham at night. They're not on top of New York though.
Travis Bosler
Travis Bosler Yıl önce
I always thought Metropolis was meant to be NYC
?г๏ รє?
?г๏ รє? Yıl önce
I didn’t know Batman lives near me XD
eneresolong
eneresolong 2 yıl önce
And in the dkr, Gotham was filmed in Pittsburgh and the skyline had parts of Chicago, Pittsburgh, and 2 other cities 🤷‍♂️
Thromaz
Thromaz 2 yıl önce
Correct. Gotham City is in "Gotham county" NJ and is based on an amalgamation of Camden and Bridgeton.
Hamzah Hassan
Hamzah Hassan Yıl önce
When he says everyone will be stuck in lockdown, hits differently now.
Nicolas Mayo
Nicolas Mayo 2 yıl önce
batman makes it MatPat: how!? batman: because i'm batman
John
John 6 yıl önce
Am i the only one who wonders how he survives the explosion himself? Even after dropping the bomb he would need ample time to fly to safety or be vaporized.
Akash Beh
Akash Beh 15 gün önce
@EdGali It shows him in the batcopter, but the scenes are out of order as Christopher Nolan directs it. It tricks you to think he is on the Bat when it blows up when really he was only on the Bat in the city, and jumped out amidst the smoke of the exploding building. This editing of scenes also explains other things in the movie like when we see Batman show up to help Robin cop only seconds after rescuing Commissioner Gordon
Akash Beh
Akash Beh 15 gün önce
@Backfromthedeadguy He finally retired while martyring Batman as a symbol for the people and still saving Gotham with autopilot rather than committing suicide
Moonlight Forever
Moonlight Forever 6 yıl önce
+John E that is so true I have watched this movie more times then I can Count and I am still thinking about it ¿
IOSttar
IOSttar 6 yıl önce
+John E He used the Bat-nuclear-shield, yep.
G G
G G 6 yıl önce
+John E Well he,s the god damn BATMAN. On a serious note the only way he could have gotten away with all that and survive was if the Bat was travelling at really great speeds.
Nate
Nate 3 aylar önce
I just rewatched the dark knight rises after watching this video. You can clearly see the afterburners come on on the back of the Bat. So it must have some sort of jet capabilities, it’s not just a helicopter.
Reanimaniact
Reanimaniact 2 yıl önce
I mean... Dude was ganna risk his life for a city that never truly appreciated him at this time and almost destroyed themselves... I think he deserves a break
Dxmb Elliot
Dxmb Elliot 2 yıl önce
Rest in peace Heath Ledger. (Dark Knight's Joker) You're a Australian icon, and will be missed
Art's Life
Art's Life 10 aylar önce
C'mon man I'm trying to watch a video on war bombs in movies, why so serious.
fire 101
fire 101 2 yıl önce
Zacky Boi I love heath ledger
Andrew Cottman
Andrew Cottman 3 yıl önce
So... what ended up happening with the fallout from the other blasts? I mean shape it how you want in terms of avoiding injury, etc. But how far would batsy boy have needed to go to avoid the fallout striking land given regular wind estimates, and is there a way to determine average wind in at that point in time?
Josh T.
Josh T. 2 yıl önce
I love matpats videos. He makes it so believable and it makes so much sense when he puts it all together. I can tell how much work he puts in to them. Good job!
Nick Erhart
Nick Erhart 3 yıl önce
You're assuming that the batcopter is on the same level as any normal helicopter but you have to remember that he is the guy who made the batmobile and the watchtower, it's likely at least 2x as powerful as any helicopter to date.
Nick Erhart
Nick Erhart 3 yıl önce
TC Nigel yeah but even though, for whatever reason, batman didn't make them himself they are somewhat comparable to the things he made in the comics, and even at the reduced strength all batman's items and vehicles were made at they were still beyond most modern equivalents.
Enoch Washington
Enoch Washington 3 yıl önce
in the Nolan films he didn't make any of this stuff Lucius Fox did.
Jungkook Biased
Jungkook Biased Yıl önce
But at the end of the day, you have to remember that it's just a movie. It can't go 100% with science or facts. I think Nolan wanted to make the last scene a little more dramatic. Plus in the terms of people who died, it's not a real life incident. The people who watched the movie didn't really would care about the other places people dying. And I think batman only cared for people of Gotham. It's one of the interesting part of his character.
Richard Lin
Richard Lin 3 yıl önce
Notice the "bat-copter" has jet engines and not propellers.
FireMonkey
FireMonkey Yıl önce
Well, you don’t know how fast The Bat can go so I’m guessing it can go around 500 mph and has a much higher load capacity based off of Foxx’s track record with how effective his inventions are and he dropped it into the water before it detonated which severely decreases the blast radius and fallout.
JS
JS 2 yıl önce
"everybody's gonna be stuck, in lockdown for weeks" *is this foreshadowing*
Emily Mondragon
Emily Mondragon 11 aylar önce
the fact this comment is made a year ago is just...depressing
HELLALOLAN Boi
HELLALOLAN Boi Yıl önce
Matpat invented corona confirmed
LUIS ALBERTO ARENAS ARAYA
MatPat the Wise
NighTWolF
NighTWolF 2 yıl önce
Wait, he could have saved them all very easily. The bomb explodes right under his batcopter, which would mean it is indestructible. Why not just put the bomb inside of it and let it explode?
Nate DS
Nate DS 3 yıl önce
I wish I cared about spoilers for the dark kmight rises when I saw this for the first time. The ending to the dark knight rises is just something you gotta watch with fresh eyes.
Nathan Glover
Nathan Glover 2 yıl önce
Hey MatPat, I know this is waaay behind the curve, but I thought a great film theory about the Dark Knight Rises would be "CAN Commissioner Gordon send ALL of the police into the sewers?" I.e. out of the total population of the GC police force; how many would be on training courses, or leave, or manning police stations, or traffic duty, or needed for operations and patrols the next day, or held back in reserve to support those going into the sewers, or manning dispatch centers, or commanding and coordinating those officers who do go into the sewers? It could be a great look at the ongoing demands on police forces and other tactical operatives who have to maintain a 24 hour response capability as well as respond to exceptional operational requirements.
TheBreakFast
TheBreakFast 3 yıl önce
6:57 if the bomb was weightless, in the 75 seconds it would’ve travelled a about 22 500 000 km because if it doesnt have weight, it doesnt have mass either and since massless object must always travel at the speed of light, gotham doesnt have any chance of being devastated.
Jack L
Jack L 2 yıl önce
TheBreakFast but it's dependent on the copter's speed and the copter isn't massless
Professional Clown
Professional Clown 2 yıl önce
Yummy breakfast
Tortuga
Tortuga 3 yıl önce
Aren’t you forgetting to factor that Bruce Wayne was alive at the end, which means he had to have kept flying, which means he had to have dropped the bomb, which means it wouldn’t have blown up in midair and could have blown under the surface of the water. It’s all moot, given that.
Chris Daykin
Chris Daykin 3 yıl önce
Good theories and calculations but you have to remember it’s fiction and he’s ‘batman’. Of all the technology he has at his grasp you would expect he has some very speedy stuff
Papa Gazebo
Papa Gazebo 6 yıl önce
Ever thought bane lied about the bomb being all that destructive
LUIS ALBERTO ARENAS ARAYA
@Papa Gazebo Bane could have threatened him.
Jason Howe
Jason Howe 2 yıl önce
Fallout 5 in Gotham
Walter Yupa
Walter Yupa 2 yıl önce
no
James Dinius
James Dinius 2 yıl önce
Something is fishy here. No way is a 4kT warhead getting a 6 mile blast radius. That kind of distance is the extreme range that a 10 mT warhead levels buildings.
Chopinwannabe
Chopinwannabe 2 yıl önce
What if it wasn't a nuke?
Beaver Scope
Beaver Scope Yıl önce
Well considering that none of the bad situations end up happening in the the end it's likely batman's vehicle has a top speed faster than the world's fastest helicopter .
Matte Black
Matte Black Yıl önce
It’s also unexplained how Batman travels from the prison to Gotham so quickly!
samarthh
samarthh 2 yıl önce
I get it, all the facts and stuff Batman didn’t save the city and Christopher Nolan couldn’t make this scene as realistic as he usually does but still you gotta remember... He’s BATMAN!
samarthh
samarthh 2 yıl önce
Matthew Crane it is I didn’t even read the comments lol
Matthew Crane
Matthew Crane 2 yıl önce
Smartbro30 basically a copy of the top comment but ok
David Sotomayor
David Sotomayor 2 yıl önce
But Mat, when we see the batcopter go to the ocean we can't see any type of land, meaning he made it out of the lower bay, and with that information you can calculate the speed of the batcopter. You just have to count from the point when he made it out of Manhattan till he reach the sea. 13 miles or 21 km. That make it safe for the City of New york. Unfortunately i dont have time to calculate the speed he is going. So i will guess he made it from out of Manhattan to the edge of the lower bay area in 45 seconds. With that he is going to 1680 km/h or 1044 mph !. That's a a lot more than the fastest chopper. But hey, thats just a theory. A counter theory.
Brett Johnson
Brett Johnson 5 yıl önce
This theory becomes ten times funnier if you imagine that the guy is saying all of this to batman in the superhero cafe.
Mr. Snark
Mr. Snark 4 yıl önce
MatPat: So...given all these factors, how did you survive--wait, no, don't tell me... Batman: BECAUSE I'M BATMAN! Matpat: *sigh* Walked right into that one.
Player Havoc
Player Havoc 4 yıl önce
Anthony Gretton #😂😂😂Good one
Pgum123 Gonowplayread
Fun fact= Bruce Wayne went to tons of charities and such, and helped shape Gotham. He evened the power to have built many low income housing around Gotham (Which should be said that is risky business in the long run as it could damage the socio economics if certain factors get in the way) Yet however, he never once tried to buy the police as Bruce Wayne to make a difference. He could avoided quite a lot of problems. Yeah, sure one could argue what the heck because buying police is buying police but ends justify the means and also EVEN IF he were to worry about Gotham's richest having going to against the Bruce persona because of that, they could do nothing if he had more connections when it comes to business (hm Atlantan trade, trade with Queen CO., trade with..., trade with themiscara) that none of the rest would have. He could have changed the world, make US be going greener or more natural that the Atlantians would be ecstatic about.
Jessica Flock
Jessica Flock 2 yıl önce
Yeah, alright, you got me as a subscriber. Mostly because I spent several hours watching these and trying to decide why I like your content so much. And then you told me you were a theatre kid, within a year of my own age. That's it. That's the thing I'm responding to so positively. Love it. Good work.
sandgrassbagel
sandgrassbagel 2 yıl önce
I have a question MatPat, since I know nothing about bombs. What if he dropped the bomb into the water, what would happen to the radiation and the blast if it was dropped into the ocean? Then would Gotham be saved? Like, I mean if it was completely dropped to the bottom of the ocean.
Hyperbolic
Hyperbolic 3 yıl önce
The Dark Knight Trilogy (besides the bomb scene) is like the best comic and maybe any film franchise cause it has Comic and Reality put together... it basically is
Emil Christophersen
Emil Christophersen 6 yıl önce
I feel like hollywood hates Matpat for exposing all their bullshit lmao
David Humby
David Humby Yıl önce
Batshit**
LUIS ALBERTO ARENAS ARAYA
Holywood making a MatPat movie saying he is a Sociopath lmao.
FinalFantasy7Freak6
FinalFantasy7Freak6 5 yıl önce
Emil Christophersen that the best thing EVER!!! 😂
Zero
Zero 5 yıl önce
true
NumNum 878
NumNum 878 5 yıl önce
ikr
Aidan Sullivan
Aidan Sullivan 2 yıl önce
When you realize that You would’ve been OK if it wasn’t for Batman flying the bomb towards you thanks Batman now I’m dead
Pier Paolo Polla
Pier Paolo Polla 3 yıl önce
A neutron bomb doesn’t cause a huge explosion like an atom bomb, it’s all about neutron radiation that can damage dna and pass through buildings, also there is no fallout or any long term effect. Existing 1kt N bomb could cause a 700 m radius of damage on the ground, it is specifically design to hit relatively small areas, so 3 km for 4kt bomb seem plausible.
Bonnie Fazman
Bonnie Fazman 2 yıl önce
You did pretty good MatPat, I actually doubled checked the numbers here. Let's be honest though, it was a pretty tall order to start with when it comes to shooting this scene.
Sharp Shark
Sharp Shark 3 yıl önce
What if he putted the bomb deep in the sea? That would help a lot since the esplosion radius would be lot smaller and idrk but maybe it also applies to radiation which in the "No bye-bye with physics" he could had 0 casualities (that being no fishermans on boats and aquaman).
Jullian Aubrey
Jullian Aubrey 4 yıl önce
This is why time limits used to arbitrarily heighten drama are stupid. Although, this isn't the worst example. "You have five minutes* until the planet explodes." *Or, roughly 60 episodes.
Maxi Drozd
Maxi Drozd 25 gün önce
@x6568tank yeah but they talk about 30 mins. I think its tactical from freezers side. He underestimated the planets strenght/the actuall“destroyenergie“ , thinking of that , he actually acted smart , to „confuse“ or shatter the confidence and the focus of Goku. Butvi think matpat , by now has a video on it :D
Amadeus Amadeus
Amadeus Amadeus 4 aylar önce
Christopher Nolan accurately portrays time and countdowns on his films so...
bekim
bekim 2 yıl önce
DBZ logic
Mikael Johnsson
Mikael Johnsson 2 yıl önce
@Floating F except that einsteinian physics clearly doesn't apply
Jupitarian Disaster
Jupitarian Disaster 2 yıl önce
I’m pretty sure it’s only 12
Luke
Luke Yıl önce
I feel like the batcopter would be faster than the fastest helicopter in the world Billion+Wayne Viechles= fastest helicopter
FredFred52 Media
FredFred52 Media Yıl önce
I'm gonna be honest. I've watched this trilogy multiple times and STILL didn't understand what was going on in them.
Mats F.
Mats F. 2 yıl önce
Clearly batman watched "Airwolf" when he was young and installed two jet engines that does mach 2 atleast in the back... cmon peeps keep up.
chrispy fried chicken
Well technically gotham is an island chain in New Jersey. It is made up of 3 main islands and several smaller islands, meaning manhattan was most likely representing the northernmost island
Thrifty Freebies
Thrifty Freebies 5 yıl önce
But, even if we accept that Gotham was saved, what effect would the bomb have had on Batman? Surely he was within the radius of the bomb when he (presumably) evacuated his Batcopter...? Or was his Batcopter conveniently nuclear bomb-proof (in which case, wouldn't it have made more sense for the bomb to detonate inside the Batcopter?)??
A NightWing
A NightWing 2 aylar önce
You must have not watched the ending of the movie, he sets it on auto-pilot so he does not die
TauqirFit
TauqirFit 5 yıl önce
that is the best fucking comment on this website lmfao
Mr Ball
Mr Ball 5 yıl önce
research it AUTOPILOT INSTALLED!!!
Nilaksh
Nilaksh 5 yıl önce
Let's all agree this was Christopher Nolan's weakest scene
Mr Ball
Mr Ball 5 yıl önce
batman installed. auto pilot it was mentioned n the movie!!!
Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell 3 yıl önce
Here's an idea: Smash the blasted thing! Nuclear devices are surprisingly delicate for all their destructive potential, and cannot work properly if the components are damaged.
ศานต์ไท หุ่นพยนต์
At first I wanted to object your idea of the radioactive fallout, as the bomb was branded a neutron bomb. In my understanding, a neutron bomb blasts only neutron particles, and does not have any radioactive waste afterward. But as in the movie, the military satellite picked up a radioactive signature from the bomb, therefore your issue on the fallout it valid. My only theory in support of Batman is that his Bat-Copter is faster than any other helicopter we know, as it is propelled by not any rotor, but a kind of turbo jet engine, we can theorize its speed as of an AV-8 Harrier jump-jet (V/STOL), whose top speed is 731 mph (1,176 km/h), in other words, more than twice of the Eurocopter you are talking about. So, Gotham City still has a chance.
Masudur Saikat
Masudur Saikat 3 yıl önce
the real question is, " How did batman escaped the blast radius?"
Rayan Rachedi
Rayan Rachedi 3 yıl önce
The video we deserve but not the one we need right now
Kayla Sprenz
Kayla Sprenz 5 yıl önce
Saw a lack of positive comments and thought it was high time I actually voiced my opinion. This was an awesome video! I can tell there was a lot of time put into it for all the researching, math and pop cultural statistics to make this. I feel I learned a lot from not only these videos but the others produced by your channels. Keep up the great work Matpat! You made a loyal theorist outa me.:)
Luna Bean
Luna Bean 4 aylar önce
This deserves to be pinned and liked by more people. U are a good person
Spiderboss Gamer
Spiderboss Gamer 4 yıl önce
Go mat pat drink that coke
Felino ,jr. Megino
Felino ,jr. Megino 5 yıl önce
Kayla Sprenz :)
Роман Бондарук
One quick question: how do you know that the one bomb in film is 4 kilotons? There were some references in the film?
Boogy Woogy
Boogy Woogy 2 aylar önce
The dark Knight trilogy is just like the Spider-Man trilogy he got a little darker toward the end and it was still pretty awesome but nothing can compare with number two
Wen L.
Wen L. 3 yıl önce
What if the Bat-Copter had jet boosters for supersonic flight, which could not be activated until it's clear of the city like most supersonic aircraft, including the classic Concord jets that had to leave city limits before engaging those speeds? 3x the speed would explain the 37 seconds over ocean being enough to clear the city
Ren Garcia
Ren Garcia 3 yıl önce
Your 4kilaton yield sounds very high. The whole point behind a neutron bomb is that it's meant to kill people, not structures. The blast yield of a neutron bomb, or, the oft-mentioned "dirty bomb" is supposed to be very low with a butt-load of radiation afterwards. In theory, you could drop a neutron bomb in the courtyard of the Pentagon. After it went off, it would do very little damage to the Pentagon itself, but, everybody inside would be dead from over exposure to radiation.
Calvatron, Lord of Nothing
I believe the moral of all of this, is that "some days you just can't get rid of a bomb"
GoldBacon Will
GoldBacon Will 6 yıl önce
+Calvatron's Comics He didn't even do it Plus howd he survive
Shiny Isley
Shiny Isley 6 yıl önce
+Calvatron's Comics Out of curiosity was I the only one who thought the point was why didn't batman disarm the bomb and then go into the pros and cons of that when that line was brought up?
Dr. Own
Dr. Own 6 yıl önce
+Calvatron's Comics The real moral is: Don't even romance. or grammar. but mostly dont romance
Calvatron, Lord of Nothing
@***** very true. I should've done that.
Rakuall Elocin
Rakuall Elocin 6 yıl önce
+Calvatron's Comics This is we watch the whole thing, then comment.
Some random Person
Some random Person 2 yıl önce
Here's something that could help: If you hold out your thumb and you can't see the entire explosion then your good If you can see it your screwed
Z-Kun
Z-Kun 2 yıl önce
thats only for radiation
theDawsonshow
theDawsonshow 2 yıl önce
Thanks for scaring me Matpat now I’m going to be scared of nuclear bombs ☢️
jeremy144713
jeremy144713 Yıl önce
Actually. The Dark Knight was mostly filmed in Chicago and gave off that vibe heavily. But indeed the TDKR was filmed in NY and Philly
Bjorn Samios
Bjorn Samios 3 yıl önce
thanks matpat, i love this channel but this was depressing. I live in a suburb of New York and all that talk abt the nuclear fallout terrified the crap outta me.
Salty Canadian
Salty Canadian 5 yıl önce
My question is, why wouldn't he drop the bomb in the ocean? It quite literally could have saved nearly all of those people. A) Water is one of the most effective elements to contain radiation. You literally could go into a nuclear reactor and swim with the uranium, as the only radioactive range is roughly 2 feet. So expand this to a nuclear bomb level and you likely would have less than 75% of the radiation damage to Gotham, if that due to the radioactive fallout dispersing into the water. B)The US military has already done tests on nuclear bombs exploding under water, with MUCH higher payloads, and the waves roughly 2.5 miles away, went up by a mere 4 feet. So damage would be reduced by literally tenfolds. C)And taking into account the extra time he would get if he kept his dick in his pants, Batman could've gotten well over 5 miles away, dropped the bomb, and still have time to let it sink, and fly the fuck away. He could've saved possibly everyone if he wasn't being a horny teenager.
Doctor Tait
Doctor Tait Aylar önce
he probably did and thats why nothing happened to gotham
Ewan Stewart
Ewan Stewart Yıl önce
the yield was 4MT not KT, so using nukemap, I found out (including fallout) that the death toll would be about 1.2 million (almost all of the 1.6 million) and 2.56 Million people would be injured (almost 1 million more people than in Gotham/manhattan)
Rusty Smith
Rusty Smith 3 yıl önce
hey MatPat you also got to consider that we're talking about Bat-Man here I think that the Bat-Copter he is using is probably going to be faster than anything today.
Wibhash Singh Singh
Wibhash Singh Singh 2 yıl önce
He did all he could have. Without him no one could have saved Gotham
Zakjakdagamer
Zakjakdagamer Yıl önce
Batman to bane:now talk Bane:*says something though his mask Batman:you know what never mind I’ll just put you in prison
ThatEntityGirl
ThatEntityGirl 6 yıl önce
I always thought "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING STOP SAYING YOUR GOODBYES WHEN THERE'S A NUCLEAR BOMB THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF NOW!" in that scene, and especially after the scene when Batman is trying to carry the bomb out and it tries to play the whole "will he get it out far enough in time" tension thing. Seriously, IT'S BUILDING TENSION TO WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL GET IT OUT FAR ENOUGH IN TIME RIGHT AFTER HE JUST WASTED TIME HE COULD OF USED TO GET THE BOMB OUT BY SAYING GOODBYES THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO SURVIVE ANYWAY BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN!! LIKE WTF
Samaritan Prime
Samaritan Prime 6 yıl önce
@Jiggley Krowzer Oh. Thanks. The nuke would still poison the water, though, right?
Thomas Jiang
Thomas Jiang 6 yıl önce
@Aequitas 1995 Tsumanis caused nukes are a myth. Many nuclear weapons have tested over water have never once caused a tsunami.
Samaritan Prime
Samaritan Prime 6 yıl önce
@Corbin Cox There would be a radioactive tsunami that would destroy Gotham just as much as the nuke.
Corbin Cox
Corbin Cox 6 yıl önce
Or, JUST DROP IT IN THE WATER!!!!!!!!
hamsterGoneCrazy
hamsterGoneCrazy 6 yıl önce
+Shane McCormick nice spoiler
Mark Merchant
Mark Merchant 2 yıl önce
Hollywood: i fear no man. But that thing... *shows matpat exposing crap* Hollywood: it scares me...
John free Punk
John free Punk 3 aylar önce
Batman: “ I CAN GET IT OUT OVER THE BAY! Mat: “give me 14 minutes”
Sujay Patil
Sujay Patil 3 yıl önce
But still its not a real nuclear bomb which takes years of engineering it's just a modified generator so technically it won't do the same damage as a 4kt nuclear bomb
Jithin Jacob
Jithin Jacob 3 yıl önce
If batman had taken the bomb up into the sky, will that have saved the city?
Tony Koter
Tony Koter 5 yıl önce
Batman clearly states when attaching the bomb to the Bat "I can get it out over the bay" which implies that Gotham City (in Chris Nolan's universe at least) is right besides the ocean. Nolan's Gotham City isn't necessarily based upon NYC since in the Dark Knight Trilogy cities such as Chicago, Los Angeles, Pittsburgh and London were also filming locations for Gotham.
Daniel Masom
Daniel Masom 2 yıl önce
1:15 is the greatest transition I’ve ever seen
Aleph Null
Aleph Null 2 yıl önce
Should we talk about how the people of the "Narrow" area of gothem should've exploded in the first movie?
fine
fine 2 yıl önce
It's that movie logic where something is EXTREMELY urgent, but the characters still take their sweet time saying goodbye.
Teo Prendi
Teo Prendi 3 yıl önce
Maybe the helicopter was faster because batman is a billionere who can buy a helicopter who are a lot faster.Maybe.
Kake
Kake Yıl önce
@Tusmus Direction yeah that’s what I’m thinking cuz he’s super smart as he’s known as the greatest detective
Tusmus Direction
Tusmus Direction 2 yıl önce
Or he could make his own. Like the batarangs, batmobile, etc.
Mikman360
Mikman360 6 yıl önce
So what I'm getting is that Catwoman's face is the true villain of this movie.
The One True EEF
The One True EEF Yıl önce
Dammit, Hathaway! We talked about this!
LUIS ALBERTO ARENAS ARAYA
Bats was thirsty.
Aidan McAvoy
Aidan McAvoy 5 yıl önce
Lol
Solowolf082
Solowolf082 5 yıl önce
yes that is exactly what it is
Deirdre Baggett
Deirdre Baggett 3 yıl önce
In Bale's bat voice "It's called the batwing." That is actually what it is called.
Dog with A camera
Dog with A camera 3 yıl önce
Pat: this is impossible Batman: BECAUSE IM BATMAN
Nicholas Alkobi
Nicholas Alkobi 3 yıl önce
And I quote. "YOU HAD ONE JOB BATMAN!!!"😂
OPswordfighterr
OPswordfighterr Yıl önce
THINGS ARE WORSE THAN EVER
PoliticsandHistory1776
MatPat should do a follow up to this episode with the bomb from the “some days you just can’t get rid of a bomb” scene in the 1966 Batman movie. Lol!!!
Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes 6 yıl önce
So, I have watched Dark knight Rises several times.... It's not a bomb. It's a power source modified to explode. Considering the lack of details on that particularly mild mcguffin, there's no guarantee it would behave like a nuclear bomb. It was never tested as an explosive device, so they wouldn't be sure what would happen anyway. As far as timing in movies, there is a concept around cinematic time and it doesn't follow second by second, aka it's not Real Time. The bomb is not nearly as big a plot hole as people think, not even as much as The Joker in Dark Knight somehow knowing what everyone is doing, how long they're going to take to do it, and where they will go when they're done. So yeah, it wasn't a nuclear weapon, it was a weaponized Fusion reactor. It's a work of fiction, not just the story but the item itself. Nitpicking the end of this movie has gotten really, really old.
Rob Laquiere
Rob Laquiere 6 yıl önce
+Justin Barnes I agree, lets not learn nuclear physics from a movie about comic books.
Justin Barnes
Justin Barnes 6 yıl önce
+Justin Barnes Also, I know it's from the comics, but there's an actual map of Gotham. Why are we talking about New York? This is a particularly bad film theory.
kasey fox
kasey fox Yıl önce
Would it have been different had he gone straight up into the air?
Jabba233hutt
Jabba233hutt 3 yıl önce
What about if he drop the bomb into the water, that will reduce the energy of the blast wave.
DeathByBlue
DeathByBlue 3 yıl önce
But it will create more nuclear fallout, so it wouldn't necessarily be better.
The Kessle Run
The Kessle Run Yıl önce
We need MatPat and cinema sins to create a movie together
Benjamin Fricke
Benjamin Fricke 3 yıl önce
He presumably dropped it into the water. That’s an important factor you kind of glossed over.
Polygon Man
Polygon Man 5 yıl önce
Batman has been a douche during the movies lately. He picked a fight with Superman and now is picking fights with Aquaman.
Doritos
Doritos 10 aylar önce
@FinalFantasy7Freak6 aquaman can control water and sea animals so... MOVABLE SHARK
MrColler123
MrColler123 5 yıl önce
Polygon Man my money is on Khal Drogo!
souhail RH
souhail RH 5 yıl önce
killertnt911 nnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
Oliva Trujillo
Oliva Trujillo 5 yıl önce
Polygon Man ohhhh
Tad Soup
Tad Soup 5 yıl önce
Polygon Man weelllllllllll do we really legit care about that aquaman
Alex Waddington
Alex Waddington 2 yıl önce
What about the water? If he dropped the bomb in the water off shore, surely the water would attenuate a lot of the radiation.
Joseph Shaffer
Joseph Shaffer 3 yıl önce
They didn't only show a New York skyline in the 3 movies of this series. They also showed sky lines from Chicago, and LA. So they Idea that Gotham is supposed to be in New York as a representative of Manhattan is lost, and this verifies that Gotham is a mythical place, and could have an open ocean coast line. So there as you could go as far as to say that with the right wind direction, it could push the radioactive material away from the coast line. Further when I was in the Army taking an NBC(Nuclear Biological and Chemical) class, I learned that there were people just outside of the blast radius in Nagasaki and Hiroshima(probably not spelled right) who had no symptoms(including their children several generations since) of radiation poisoning. Also, with the size of this mythical city, if he didn't get all of the city out of the blast radius, there is still a likely chance he got the majority of the city out of it.
ElijahYar21
ElijahYar21 Yıl önce
And here we have the reason matpat is placed multiple government watchlists
kam ridley
kam ridley 2 yıl önce
Batman need to keep his love life out of the way with his work
Omega Soypreme
Omega Soypreme 6 yıl önce
Matpat, what have you done? Daring to criticize not just a Batman film but a Nolan/Batman film? That's not just poking the bear. That's poking the bear while kicking its cub!
Patty 102
Patty 102 3 yıl önce
Dying laughing reading your comment😂
Tyler Lynn
Tyler Lynn 6 yıl önce
@Raj m good point did he start near the southern part of the island or was it worst case scenario and he was way up north
Rajinikanth MohanRaj
+Tyler Lynn I have a question for you what about his location in gotham
Tyler Lynn
Tyler Lynn 6 yıl önce
+superchief86 eh he's going after the third one which is fine because it wasn't nearly as good as 2
senstarlight #StandWithBelarus
+James Harvey it would create a wave that would take out most of the city (if not all of it)
fatcatfever2022
fatcatfever2022 3 yıl önce
For the record, neutron bomb is gamma radiation. It doesn't make fallout as bad as regular nukes.
Breaderik The Great
Breaderik The Great 13 gün önce
There is just one problem. "The Bat" isn't a Helicopter but more of a plane. And a Plans has a maximal speed of 1062 km/h (650 m/h). Now with one whole Minute he can go 17,7 km or 10,8 miles
Mental Popcorn
Mental Popcorn 3 yıl önce
I never understood “I’m not the hero Gotham needs, I’m the hero it deserves” If they don’t need you... then why would you be there even if they did deserve you? You’re unneeded in that statement
daniels rose
daniels rose 2 yıl önce
You forgot to mention what would have happened to Batman. Where was he when the bomb went off? Didn't see him in his Bat-radioactive Suit.
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