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FFX Was Finally Broken After 20 Years By Speedrunners

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FFX Speedrunning just got crazy, here's why.

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DoctorSwellman
DoctorSwellman Aylar önce
Thank you all so much for the support these last few months! Let's hit 10k Subs by the end of the year!
Jess L
Jess L 14 gün önce
Dang bro, nearly 1M views!
Mythraen
Mythraen 29 gün önce
Reminder that subs don't matter. Concentrate on metrics and views. Don't worry about subs. TRvid sure doesn't. (Except for those buttons they send you, I guess.)
Hero of the Beach
Hero of the Beach Aylar önce
IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN (as of this writing, it has already happened)
Brendin Lloyd
Brendin Lloyd Aylar önce
Throwing a sub your way :)
Dansg08
Dansg08 3 aylar önce
This is mindblowing stuff, incredible work and dedication from everyone involved!
Sad Robot
Sad Robot 3 gün önce
The man himself. The only man, AFAIK, who can tell the tale of beating Dark Anima in NSGNZ
lakespeed
lakespeed Aylar önce
I was like hey, this is a Final Fantasy video and it's not by Dansg08. Then I see you in the comments, ok there is credibility.
S K
S K Aylar önce
64652
Seffie von Dionysus
Luv u berk 🥰
William Kane
William Kane Aylar önce
It's reverse engineering on an x86 platform, which I do daily as my job - maybe it's mind blowing for gamers, but.. not really anyone else. lol
David R. B.
David R. B. 2 aylar önce
I'm not even into speedrunning much, but this was really interesting seeing the dissection of a game, the seeds, and how that affects the RNG of an entire playthough. Good explanation!
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@MrRickeo People who bitch about anyone having a checkmark no matter what, when nobody cares whatsoever, and end up more of an annoyance = Virgin
Jordan Marques
Jordan Marques 2 aylar önce
This game must have been a truly nightmare for programmers
MrRickeo
MrRickeo 2 aylar önce
Checkmark = virgin
Rossy
Rossy 3 aylar önce
YOOOOOOO, THIS WAS AMAZING. I'm sitting here with a huge, dumb grin on my face. I'm glad my and the rest of the community's work has been incredibly useful. Thank you for putting this video together!
Mate Kanta
Mate Kanta 15 gün önce
Pi u pi u i u
Cansan55
Cansan55 22 gün önce
Nice work dude
l
l 26 gün önce
@Geebus Crust He's talking about FF14, I think.
l
l 26 gün önce
Calling them a "community" is a huge stretch, but nice profile pic. Katawa Shoujo is based.
J Negative
J Negative 28 gün önce
Yeah, I’m a FFX god.
ProjektLapis
ProjektLapis 2 aylar önce
My favourite thing about this is how one runner was doing a run, and other runners were like "Hey, I want to help this dude out!" instead of wishing bad on him or something because 'oh no what if he tops our times' and stuff. It's super cool to see them just work together to get everyone faster runs, instead of keeping things to themselves for records. They're rivals in a sense, but very friendly and chill ones that *want* to help each other get better, and it's just super nice to see that.
Hero of the Beach
Hero of the Beach Aylar önce
Runners in healthy speedrunning communities tend to organize their priorities as, for example: 1. I want to be the one who breaks the minute barrier. 2. I want that minute barrier broken, period. Personal glory matters, but _community_ glory matters too, and everyone can contribute to that, even if they're not one of the top 1%.
vaiyt
vaiyt Aylar önce
@Dramirez Ramirez that's more likely to just encourage cheaters.
Rossy
Rossy Aylar önce
BLA BLA
BLA BLA 2 aylar önce
It’s because it’s an rpg.
Dramirez Ramirez
Dramirez Ramirez 2 aylar önce
Just set some money for the top 3 runners and see how "friendly competitive community" starts to fall apart. 10k for the winner would be enough?
Kazmahu
Kazmahu 2 aylar önce
It's so nice of you to highlight all this. The top runners get a lot of the spotlight, but then you have the guys in the background putting in a serious team effort to help everyone out at this chosen challenge. It's really lovely to see how collaborative speedrunning really is.
Velcreed354
Velcreed354 2 aylar önce
This is why I love the speedrun community. Yes they are competing for top times but in the end everyone pools all their research, tips, and theories on how to save time and generally help each other and congratulate each other when a new time thought impossible is achieved.
Hextator
Hextator 28 gün önce
It's nice when it is like that, but there is a lot of toxic butthurt that results in gatekeeping which directly impedes the collaboration you're talking about. The "speedrun community" is not just one community, and even communities for individual games can become fragmented. Some people just suck at competing in a productive way.
DrunkenPrayer
DrunkenPrayer Aylar önce
I am equally terrified and in awe of the commitment of speed runners. The sheer amount of research put into stuff like this is borderline insane.
Hieda no Ajuu
Hieda no Ajuu 2 aylar önce
Typical FF speedrun: We've mined out the encounter RNG, here is a step route if you get the right seed FFXHD: by looking at your damage values up to the first boss, we can now plot out _the entire game_
Galactic Federation Ambassador Katherine Sabers
@ThanksIfYourReadIt such an underrated comment
DiscoSamurai
DiscoSamurai Aylar önce
@Timur Kral Liar liar, pants on Fira.
Brandon Steele
Brandon Steele 2 aylar önce
@Robert Hill hey, maybe is telling the truth and really did notice that pattern in 2002, three years before FF12 came out.
Robert Hill
Robert Hill 2 aylar önce
@Timur Kral I smell something 🤔 nope it’s not your breath , it’s coming from the same place though
DampfLoque
DampfLoque 2 aylar önce
I'm actually impressed that this game seems to be solid enough to have no exploitable glitches to use in speedruns ^^"
DampfLoque
DampfLoque 28 gün önce
@Avi Stryfe well that's only a feature which has been tacked on in these remasters, probably so people can't softlock themselves when coming to places where they are way too weak and can't level their party properly. You haven't had that in the original games.
Kimmo Laine
Kimmo Laine 28 gün önce
It even feels like an unbroken game. Can't really be said about its predecessors.
Avi Stryfe
Avi Stryfe Aylar önce
Doesnt need glitches. Can give urself max cash from the menu and invincibility. And jack up the speed. Basically enabling these so called "fastest cheated run" videos you see that are worded differently.
OttoNutAdventures
OttoNutAdventures Aylar önce
i like to think somewhere in the world one of the programmers for ffx has a ''gameshark'' cheater program full of work they did coding the game. if you know what a gameshark is.
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@Krieghandt >SM64 exists
theWIIISEguy
theWIIISEguy 2 aylar önce
So I just wanted to share. I've always been impressed by the very idea of a FF speedrun. It just seems like it's own kind of task to take on. Much respect to those who do it.
Giannis Govi
Giannis Govi 2 aylar önce
Thanks for compiling all of this amazing work these people put in and explaining it in a way that my slow brain can comprehend. Even though i had to pause or rewind to let some of the things you said sink in. I was never interested in speedrunning myself but watching all the crazy stuff these communities come up with is always a sight to behold.
CrimsonInferno
CrimsonInferno 3 aylar önce
Man, a crazy amount of effort must have gone into going back through all of the developments into rng tracking. Awesome video dude, well researched.
Felipe Jhony
Felipe Jhony 2 aylar önce
wow, great explanation. Its good to know my favorite game is still being treated with such care and respect by the community. I hope we keep learning more and more about it.
Aber warum denn
Aber warum denn 2 aylar önce
I bought ffx like 6 times now. 3 times for myself on ps2, ps3 and pc and to 3 friends. Also talked 2 friends into buying it. That's the only game I have ever done that with, because I'm convinced it's the best one so far and I want my friends to experience how wonderful it is.
TonyBMan
TonyBMan Aylar önce
Just hearing the amazing music again during this video is sucking me back into Spira...gotta finish my HD run.
NoFanSLand
NoFanSLand 2 aylar önce
It is a solid game after all!
C C
C C 2 aylar önce
agreed i have so many 😂😂 not including the time i bought it again with the black label so i could do all the bonus content they took out from the greatest hits version
Kristen Loader
Kristen Loader 2 aylar önce
First of all, this video is actually so in depth and thought through. Your content from what I can tell is HIGHLY under-rated. Thank you for some of the best 20 minutes I have spent in a long while ♥
Don Teddy
Don Teddy 2 aylar önce
It is crazy to see this 20 year old story driven rpg having such a big ,skilled and devoted speedruning community.
C M
C M 28 gün önce
new games suck
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@XGALARION Not any, but a few. Depends on if they find it interesting.
XGALARION
XGALARION 2 aylar önce
How is it crazy? they speedrun literally any games these days
J Di
J Di 2 aylar önce
If you're playing on an emulator, you'll definitely notice that the enemy encounters are somewhat "scripted", because using a save state you'll discover that the next encounter is always 100% the same. Now, I've learned that this is true thanks to this video! So it's seeded then, and to top it all, it's not just one but that many?? This is mind blowing stuff.
Core Editz
Core Editz 2 gün önce
I'm so fascinated that there is still such a huge community looking for anything and everything to get a speedrun as fast as possible by any means neccessary. I'm also fascinated and even blown off that there is alot of stuff in this game that can lead to a game changer just by how fast you go from bootup into the game f.e. I never thought a ps2 game to have like a million of very different stuff you can get or even manipulate with good knowledge. Awesome video that has been put together here
Hummeldon
Hummeldon 3 aylar önce
More than I think any other genre, RPGs demonstrate how collaborative speedrunning can really be. Wonderful efforts by Rossy and the FFX community. ❤️
Ian Standley
Ian Standley 2 aylar önce
The game designers and the rest of the crew really put a lot of detail in this game. Glad everyone could figure this out
Jessica Blank
Jessica Blank 3 aylar önce
Now I want to do a semi-casual run with this. Just knowing I'm going to crit or miss or hit rng on something would be insane XD
jaybyhop
jaybyhop 2 aylar önce
I'm glad to see your channel doing well. You've come a long way since when I first met you. I remember when we were grinding Megaman glitchless on Megaman Legacy Collection back in 2015. Awesome video btw. Good luck on the channel!
Kyle Cooke
Kyle Cooke 2 aylar önce
I'm not a speed runner but I will say I have mad respect for them. It takes a lot of time, dedication, patience, and probably a lot of love to dedicate yourself to speed running
Dewala Shape
Dewala Shape 2 aylar önce
Yea man. Especialy if a run takes 8 hours.
Aldwin Ryder
Aldwin Ryder 2 aylar önce
If you ever grinded for the 99x warp spheres in the Omega Ruins, it's pretty apparent that RNG seed is a large part of being able to pick up all the chests, even if you retry tons of times, it will only be possible if you actually save your game, reset out and load another file to completely reset the seed
Holidae
Holidae 18 gün önce
What's so crazy is that this is something almost everyone I know who played this as a kid could feel but couldn't explain. The capture quests specifically. It was just kind of known that sometimes you don't get certain encounters and sometimes they happen constantly. Its really cool to see the mechanism laid out like this.
Pandora Jane
Pandora Jane 3 aylar önce
this is an amazing video! I love seeing all this development from the speedrun community. I wonder if any of this technology could be used for old school challenges like No Sphere Grid Shinryu or Dark Anima for example.
Rossy
Rossy Aylar önce
Of course. You could use it to manipulate any item bribe or drop you want, as well as specific monster encounters for an area you have to run through. You'd essentially use the logic of forcing a No Encounters armor drop on a Ghost to whatever item you may be looking for. You could potentially go as far as to sitting in a basic fight before Dark Anima to cycle through the part of the RNG table that handles enemy AI decisions so that by the time you fight Dark Anima, you force her to do attacks that are most favorable to your party, which could allow you enough time to defeat her before she can use an attack that would wipe your party. :D
Brandon Sky
Brandon Sky 3 aylar önce
Community Discord: Listen to our story...this RNG may be our last chance.
Renekton FTW
Renekton FTW 2 aylar önce
@Gaming Dualities You mean Deception's class? Deception was a very interesting character.
Gaming Dualities
Gaming Dualities 2 aylar önce
@Renekton FTW my favourite moment is from this video: trvid.com/video/video-kMR1RIRlcCc.html&ab_channel=NonStoff at the end. also ep 12 and 14 showcase a really cool Assasin class and support class Runeblader
Renekton FTW
Renekton FTW 2 aylar önce
@Gaming Dualities I'm pretty sure I've already watched it. I've watched season 1 and 2, plus the 3 ovas for tournament, and whatever you call the episode about Su Mucheng brother's past. I really like the animation but I personally prefer the Light Novel over the anime maybe for the fact that it's got all that nitty gritty details from dungeons to social interactions and it seems to do development of side characters better. But I've read all of the light novel over the course of like 3 years so the story stuck with me.
Gaming Dualities
Gaming Dualities 2 aylar önce
@Renekton FTW The Kings Avatar animation is probablly one of the best MMORPG/OBA animation out there. veryy cool to watch if u like gaming
Renekton FTW
Renekton FTW 2 aylar önce
@Gaming Dualities Upvote just from the fact that you reference "The King's Avatar." Also the ending fight of the novel was so epic!
docmitchphd
docmitchphd 2 aylar önce
See this is why speed running is so impressive and incredible to witness. Hats off to the people who put in the work!
Just Some Dinosaur
Just Some Dinosaur 2 aylar önce
As a diehard FFX fan, this is beyond exciting to see!!! Thank you for the coverage on this topic :] I am personally still blown away by the NoSG challenges, which remain the most difficult FF challenges in existence.
BiggusNickus
BiggusNickus 2 aylar önce
Happy to see Caracarn gain the love he deserves. Solid guy. I always enjoyed his AGDQ commentary for FFIX.
Amel's Playground
Amel's Playground 3 aylar önce
The speed running community are a universal treasure
Leif Leoden
Leif Leoden 2 aylar önce
Wow, I can't imagine maintaining that level of dedication to a hobby. You guys are inspiring me!
Bears Cave of Miniatures
Half of the viewers like myself grossly underestimate precisely the level of homework these guys have done lol Thanks for this great video :D
SamoIsKing
SamoIsKing 2 aylar önce
I’ve been lurking on the discord since I learned how to run this. These guys a re legit. The amount of work they put in to saving a second or two from a 9 hour run is incredible. This is a huge discovery.
Lemony Biscuits
Lemony Biscuits 2 aylar önce
I'm going to enjoy watching your channel grow! You have inspired me to check my speed game for seeding. Thanks, doc. 🐰
Dragoon
Dragoon 2 aylar önce
This video really reminds me of when I spent my days watching a runner by the name of Invarse try to crack at getting the Ghost whenever he began to get off-pace by Gagazet.He tried to get the drop despite the rare possibility of happening. It's cool to see that this exists now, and that the Speedrunning Community for FFX is getting some well-deserved attention now, ha.
Guaridan-of-Light 137
Speedrunners continue to intimidate me with the absolute depth of research they will go into to save even a single frame. Nevermind BEYOND that. And their ability to notice the tiniest inconsistency in a cheating speedrun, or little details that might have massive implications for completely different things. I have nothing but respect for all of you who take this hobby so seriously. It's truly a thing to behold.
KevinE Everon
KevinE Everon 2 aylar önce
I absolutely admire this community. How do they find out all of this and how to manipulate the game. Amazing!!
Rossy
Rossy Aylar önce
It took about a year of learning assembly language and reverse engineering to get to the point of knowing when a Ghost would appear. Granted now that I know that base knowledge, applying it to another game wouldn't take as long, but it was a grind, that's for sure! Having tools like Cheat Engine is a huge help so you can watch the game memory in real time to see what's happening. And if you know the type of data you're looking for, you can see what part of the game handles that data and how it handles the data. Then you can continue from there and see if there's a way to manipulate the game to have it handle that data in the way you want it to for a preferred outcome.
Ace365
Ace365 2 aylar önce
Really admire the dedication of this community. It's a great game. Worth doing it 👏👏👏
Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson 2 aylar önce
Celti Cers
Celti Cers 3 aylar önce
didn't expect a FFX video, really interesting. They should have added another RNG value. that would have been nice.
Foolish Mortal
Foolish Mortal 2 aylar önce
They all pooled their time and resources together and pulled of some amazing work. That's just dope.
Delsoon Bye
Delsoon Bye 2 aylar önce
I thought it was already known that the PC HD remaster version had a problem with the RNG. Ive seen alot of videos a couple years ago of people who have shown that they'll get the same monster set over and over again at the same location after turning the game off and on. A youtuber by the name of Darkkefka was one of the first videos ive seen of this problem
Elsneakakaze
Elsneakakaze 2 aylar önce
My favorite game, FFX holds a special place in my heart, and im so glad that 20 years later people still love and talk about it
Sebastian Mika
Sebastian Mika 2 aylar önce
The nostalgia! I was in the US for 2 years when ffx released and I never played a jrpg + my English was shaky. I got the game and strategy guide with the sphere grid "Poster" that I used to divide up grids/spheres to get max stats and rest for HP....good times.
JesusBoti9
JesusBoti9 2 aylar önce
FFX was my first on the series. It's amazing to see that kind of stuff about the game 20 years later. Congrats to the community of speedrunners for making that amazing job and Keep the grind!
Anti Theist
Anti Theist 2 aylar önce
Personally I started with 8, but X is still my favorite. I didn't know speedrunning a final fantasy game could be so complex, it's pretty cool to see.
SirBlackMage
SirBlackMage 2 aylar önce
Awesome video! I had no clue you could get No Encounter gear that early in the game, always thought it was post-game only. I remember being 10 and getting my first ever piece for Auron while grinding levels in the Omega Ruins. I was super excited and went to save right away, neglecting to put it on because I wanted to continue grinding. After all, I was only 10 steps away from the save sphere, what could go wrong? Back Attack -> Great Malboro -> Game Over lol
SeEpiN
SeEpiN 29 gün önce
You make it with salt
Eleron Pfoutz
Eleron Pfoutz Aylar önce
I mean, you saved, at least.
Yoster's Isle
Yoster's Isle 3 aylar önce
Man, years later and I'm still learning stuff about my fave Final Fantasy. Didn't know the devs put that much work into the randomization aspects of the game, but it makes sense. If everything was easy or not as random, the game wouldn't function as well, it'd be too linear and very not fun. Also, WOW that's a lotta math
Grayfox96
Grayfox96 Aylar önce
@bmxscape yeah as i said, you have no idea how any of this works, results from previous events are not used to generate random values at all
Grayfox96
Grayfox96 Aylar önce
@bmxscape the game does have a random number generator, thats how it produces random numbers, believe it or not, i dont think you have any idea on how any of this works
Yoster's Isle
Yoster's Isle 2 aylar önce
@bmxscape still took time and effort to create and implement, and I didn't know about it until I watched the video, so it's pretty cool to me
DonYagamoth
DonYagamoth 2 aylar önce
A more recent version of stepcounting This is a really neat overview, and well presented, thank you :)
NejyCR
NejyCR 2 aylar önce
I'm both impressed by the dedication as well as curious what they could advance next.
Stefan Krammer
Stefan Krammer Aylar önce
This explains so freaking much. Since this game came out I played it for at least 6-8 times on different Versions. The last Version i played which abolutely baffeled me was the HD Remaster Version on the Switch. While Monster hunting i couldn't for the life of me get some enemies to spawn. Especially in the Forgotten Cave. I did experience similar behavior in the other hd Remaster Versions. But never as obvious as in this one. I quite soon figured out, that i had a RNG issue here an tried to alter it but ultimately could'nt really get rid of this problem. Don't get me wrong ... I do know that certain enounters are really hard to get and my patience was enmormous. But this playthrough was in a different leauge. There have been several occasions where i noticed that the game didn't seem to have many RNG values compared to the original. That its only 256 ... Hell i didn't expect it to be THIS griveous ^^ Thanks for making my suspicions true with this amazing video and a huge shuoutout to the speedrunning community of this gem. On of the best FF ever made
MadJak91
MadJak91 20 gün önce
I assume this (extended further knowledge of seeds) can be also used to crack the 99 Warp Spheres? Because I recall that people already observed some time after the HD release that there is more pattern to the mini-quest than on the PS2. Awesome stuff all in all!
Anthony Winston Garcia
This was just on my recommendation for like 10x so i just went ahead and watched it.... but damn, it was a quality f*cking content. Gotta appreciate the nerd gods involved for this manipulation since it's the one that took 2 decades unlike the rng manip of FXII using 5-hit combo. Kudos to this channel, gonna hit the sub 👌
Tia Magus
Tia Magus 2 aylar önce
68 RNG values?! With one seed?! WTH, Squenix?! No wonder save scumming was so hard. lol Also interesting that the HD port broke the seed generator. There's an allegory in here about changing things you don't understand, I'm sure of it.
Sorain1
Sorain1 2 aylar önce
I think it's worth saying that the 'frames since boot of system' _would_ need replacement with something when moving to PC... but it wouldn't have been hard to preserve a decent amount of randomness with even a basic RNG call to the OS.
iammaxhailme
iammaxhailme 3 aylar önce
this stuff is super interesting from a "how it's programmed" POV, but man, it makes me really, REALLY not want to speedrun any long games that have RNG
Vincent Stuart
Vincent Stuart 2 aylar önce
I unintentionally cheesed my game with an exploit that causes Auron to do automatic max damage on his Celestial Weapon (wasn't speed running, but I'm a filthy grinder) It has a function where if he's low on HP, his damage increases. I had filled out most of his sphere grid which means his total HP was actually much higher than the default cap of 9999, but I couldn't find an item for him with an HP Limit Break stat, so his HP was stuck at 9999 and the game registered him as constantly being low on HP, resulting in his damage always being at 99999 on his Celestial Weapon. (this made every boss fight from Yunalesca onward extremely simple, some were one shot) [I did this on the remastered version on the PS3, not sure if it's the same on PS4]
Rossy
Rossy Aylar önce
Yup! Auron's celestial weapon is the only one that works backwards like that. Everyone else's celestial weapon actually does less damage the lower their HP. It works that way for all versions of FFX. :D
Sisyphus Johnson
Sisyphus Johnson 2 aylar önce
Love that ffx is just as .... Put together... As ff7, just prettier. Where my w item crew at 😁
Ryan Bothwell
Ryan Bothwell 2 aylar önce
@Skybreaker1337 Thats mad, I couldnt even beat the Dark Magus sisters when they ambushed me :L
Skybreaker1337
Skybreaker1337 2 aylar önce
Then you start hunting Dark Aeons and realize you have the standard power level for them. 8 Million HP with a party that doesn't have multihits still gives me PTSD. And then comes Penance with 12 mil HP...
Malte
Malte 2 aylar önce
I mean if you grind enough to have maxed celestial weapons and >9999 hp before Yunalesca, it's gonna be pretty simple either way
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-- Aylar önce
This is so cool. appreciate all the work you put into this
sm40oztofreedom
sm40oztofreedom 2 aylar önce
This just amazes me. You guys are insane. Great stuff.
MrExonas
MrExonas 2 aylar önce
Love these speedrunning vids that's been coming up and becoming popular. Always a good watch.
diabolicarrrot
diabolicarrrot 2 aylar önce
Just found your channel, really good production, narration and info deserve way more subs dude
Juan Carlos
Juan Carlos 2 aylar önce
Big props to you for understanding and explaining this in an entertaining way.
Insane Falcon
Insane Falcon 3 aylar önce
When the failed ping happened in the Discord, I didn't even realize this was about FFX. I've been watching a tiny bit of FFX Speedruns through Cereth and CaracarnVI. And I've waited few years before watching how the world record progressed. And that is incredibely funny because at the time I was around a lot for Earthbound AC runs and with my exams. I actually watched the any% world record in the middle of my exams instead of preparing for it. He didn't achieved the sub 10 yet but it was his first time he got the peaceful item in a reasonable amount of time (Like 14th or 15th encounter) and also seeing he didn't go for trio of 9999 for bosses like Sin and just go "Bahamut with full strengh runes goes brrrr" just boogled my mind and wanted to see the history of FFX records. This video is almost that and I loved it.
tehf00n
tehf00n 2 aylar önce
This game is so good, I wouldn't speedrun it ever. I still have it installed, both the PS2 version and PC HD remaster.
devon marcus
devon marcus 2 aylar önce
I have watched so many speedrunning videos and my brain still melts every time they talk about RNG.
BlackEyedJester
BlackEyedJester 3 aylar önce
I STILL can't believe FFX came out 20 years ago...
Guitar Dog
Guitar Dog 2 aylar önce
Wow, we are all getting old aren't we? FFIX was one of my first games as a kid, took me 6 months to get ViVi to the show, I couldn't read lol. Edit:must of been about 5, as I learned to read I got further
Luciano Armani
Luciano Armani 2 aylar önce
i find it mindblowing that someone on planet earth has the time to grind ffx for years....
Joseph Escobar
Joseph Escobar 2 aylar önce
"My favorite game is about ending an eternal cycle of suffering and torment!" "...so i decided to speedrun the game with a choke point 8 hours into the run day after day after day for years and years"
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@Pavees Fox Ok, explain gaming, woodworking, metalworking, chemistry, writing, music, general arts and crafts, and so on. Even just forum crawling and the sort. Are those also pointless/a mental illness to "obsess" over? What is a valid "pay off"? What's the end goal? What's "healthy thinking"? I'd *really* like to see what your response would be to all those other "pointless" non-productive activities... most of which unless you dedicate entirely, will never make you money. And often are a varying level of drain on your money at best. And at worst can harm or kill you.
Mims Zanadunstedt
Mims Zanadunstedt 2 aylar önce
@Pavees Fox theres no reason for hobbies art sports n war either
Pavees Fox
Pavees Fox 2 aylar önce
@Mims Zanadunstedt it's not even irony but straight on mental illness. This level of obsession for no viable reason for no pay off it contrary to healthy thinking
Mims Zanadunstedt
Mims Zanadunstedt 2 aylar önce
Irony
Blueser
Blueser 3 aylar önce
these are getting better with each new vid man, big cheers for this massive dub bossman
Norrotaku
Norrotaku 2 aylar önce
I love how runners do actual research in such a broad spectrum
Huck Mart
Huck Mart 3 aylar önce
This is super cool. I feel like this would make nemesis % much more manageable.
Feeluck
Feeluck 2 aylar önce
mindblown by the devs putting this together AND especially by the massive research those guys did. holy cow this is ALOT of work
K C
K C 2 aylar önce
TEE-duhs, but this is really making me want to replay this game. I love seeing people reverse-engineer things I didn't even know were there. Thanks for making this.
tomatoanus
tomatoanus 3 aylar önce
"...the real run killer at the top level comes from just under eight hours into the run." man fuck
S K
S K Aylar önce
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Jeff Helmick
Jeff Helmick Aylar önce
@Grandpa Rick's First Assistant maybe that was logged, i smoked meth once and beat this game in one night before 8am that morning lol didnt move and prolly coulda been quicker if i wasnt packing bowls and googling strats.
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
​@Tanel Viil "I swear to god none of those guys has any real life, they have to be epic level autistic and have absolutely zero social life. Wasting their lives away with one game. Imagine, you are born, you have only one life and you do THIS with your life." Jesus christ, a real boomer in the wild... Did you know you can do things that, as a whole, are NOT productive towards furthering your life and general career? Art is a hobby that is not productive, games are a hobby that are not productive, writing is a hobby that is not productive, metal/wood/etcworking is a hobby that is not productive. History research is a pointless topic for most people. None of those are productive (unless you go into a dedicated job for them, and sometimes even then not very productive unless you get lucky...) and yet plenty of people do them for fun, and very often. By typing your your comment and wasting your time on people, you're wasting your life, for example. Also assuming they dont play other games, and dont have lives. Speedrunning is *also* a hobby, if you missed that hint. "And and it took me only 1 minute to come here, write the comment and thats it, while those guys waste day after day to analyse one game like total morons just to win few seconds for a speed run that maybe only a handful of people care about." And yet again proving you missed the entire point. It does not need to be "productive", because it's fun. Just because it's not *your* fun does not mean that it's completely pointless... Otherwise you might as well drop EVERYTHING you find fun, throw out all social connections, and get back to your fucking job, and shut up and do something with your life instead. Oh, but wait, you find something meaningless fun as well... Do you play games? You do realize those points and kills and skills are completely pointless right? They'll vanish when the games themselves and any sites videos are uploaded to shut down in the years to come. You dont gain anything other than momentary satisfaction before it drops to mediocrity when you "win" or kill someone, it's pointless and nobody cares about how you killed the most players in a 5 minute stretch. Or alternatively if you have a hobby like woodcarving: Do you really think anyone gives a rat's ass how you cut a chunk of wood in a funny shape? It's a useless skill that only idiots learn because they have no actual job in their lives, and have a sugardaddy to leach off of for supplies. These sound fucking stupid right? If so, that's exactly what you're saying about speedrunning as a whole. If you somehow dont find it stupid sounding... maybe you REALLY need to visit a doctor or something, in the near future, normal Humans dont think that way. Please, tell me what IS actually productive with your life, and more importantly, what IS the actual "end goal" of being productive? And dont tell me it's to "be famous" or such, because it wont really matter for shit because you'll be *dead,* even if you succeed somehow (you wont).
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@Anoahmous Sorry but, i'm gonna have to agree with Omni, you're kind of a clown. "you're obviously too stupid to realize that pathological liars are too busy manipulating people irl to bother with a TRvid comment section." Read that back to us, slowly. "pathological", what is the definition of that again? A Pathological Liar usually lies about things, even if they dont have anything to gain from lying about. What would stop them from lying on TRvid, that they arent stopped by in real life? Infact, arguably it should be the reverse. "lmao you're just a contrarian." pot calls the kettle black "I just said you should stop reading so much into stuff. I know your type and they're annoying as fuck." oh he's a type now... cool. By the way, since you're too stupid to read the implied context... "bro I'm guessing it's cause they don't want people to realize you can beat the game in under 5 hours of actual gameplay" implies that the game is short, and doesnt have enough "meat" on it's bones to be good. AKA "This game sucks lmao, they just pad it out." The person who he'd been talking to before admitted that wasnt the intended implications and they both came to a relatively civil-ish agreement, before you showed up to "save the day"? "nah dude, nerds are the "um actually" type geeks are the cool ones." so bash the guy who said "you can beat the game in under 5 hours of actual gameplay" for going "um ackshually, it's mostly padding." or are you being Contrarian just to be that way? "You're a waste of time." yet he clearly isnt.
Amun
Amun 2 aylar önce
Glad I brought popcorn to read this comment section when things got heated. Man that was a blast. Keep it up everyone this will keep entertaining people in the future too.
montywh
montywh 2 aylar önce
the POC with system clock and ram manipulation kinda reminds me of when i used to play FF8 a lot back in the day. i liked having Selphie in the party for her Rapture and The End attacks, plus i typically do a limit break only run to make it more fun for myself. one thing i noticed is when i decided to fight Omega Weapon and start using Selphie's slots is nearly every attempt i would see The End pop up shortly after activating it. i kept my save file before the fight and would reload just to do it again, and every encounter would have The End available. so now i wonder if there's something going on there with the play time, or encounter accumulation or something manipulating her slots results
Danny Wright
Danny Wright 2 aylar önce
Yeah the rng is probably already set for that encounter at this point in the save file. Could be infinite reasons as to why though 🤷‍♀️
Yung Brudi Dutschke
Yung Brudi Dutschke 2 aylar önce
this is at the same time the dumbest and most genius thing I ever witnessed. probs for this level of dedication
DoctorSwellman
DoctorSwellman 3 aylar önce
There’s a lot of folks watching, so I just wanna say thank you all so much! Be sure to check the description for the runners’ links and the FFX speedrunning discord link. I have cool plans for future works, so I hope you all stick around!
FourThirteen
FourThirteen 2 aylar önce
@Robert Pennington wtf
Robert Pennington
Robert Pennington 2 aylar önce
No ii the I only o look o okiiiri
FourThirteen
FourThirteen 2 aylar önce
@CodeguruX hahahahahahahaha this boy mad as shit
IchigoASO
IchigoASO 2 aylar önce
@CodeguruX ffx was one of their best selling games. So explain how it can be shit! Yes I agree that game after got worse and worse over the years, but the top 3 final fantasy titles in most pll eyes are 7,8, and 10(by most pll I mean pll who been playing ff games since at least the near end of the PS1)
CodeguruX
CodeguruX 2 aylar önce
No. X was shit. Enix shit. The first Final Fantasy to suffer from the merger, but undoubtedly not the last. FF games are simply unplayable now. Their gameplay is not longer a battle system, it's just an action game with RPG elements. The industry since then has self-corrected by bringing turn-based RPGs back into the foreground in many indie titles, some of which even gain mainstream popularity. But the damage has been done. Once you open the door to allow jock gamers to enjoy your game, you have killed your core jrpg audience. Notice how I haven't mentioned SquareSoft yet? Because they're the biggest fucking morons ever for alienating a shit ton their audience by their little gay slap fight with Nintendo and their eventual exodus to Sony. Had they not made that asinine mistake, they wouldn't have needed to be absorbed by Enix. But making business decision on emotional reasoning is a mainstay in older Japan, and fuck them for it.
Madhyama
Madhyama 3 aylar önce
Cool vid! That amount of research must have took a lot of time
DoctorSwellman
DoctorSwellman 3 aylar önce
It took a bit, but the big nerds channel and some folks helped out a lot!
Deboo zombie23
Deboo zombie23 2 aylar önce
I remember that it I used to go elsewhere to find certain monsters in any kind of random encounter rpg when I got the same over and over again - because I wanted to complete my ingame encyclopedia for example - I never realized how deep a mere observation can go - I was simply thinking "They got the stronger enemies deeper in the dungeon" or "This looks like a place where the fire elementals might appear". This "reverse engineering" might actually also apply to other rpgs hunting for similiar important loot.
Off The Record
Off The Record 2 aylar önce
What will they discover after another 10 years??? It's like we are all in a matrix and uncovering hidden knowledge swept under the rug no one knew was there. Crazy... Great video and info!! Cheers!
Samuel Gibson
Samuel Gibson 2 aylar önce
Wow that's some code breaker talent right there. That's incredible.
Stephen H
Stephen H 2 aylar önce
THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!! please make more, we love this stuff. Your voice is so clear and crisp
Moon Door
Moon Door 3 aylar önce
In 8 hours in FF X I was trying my best to level up to not getting my soul destroyed by some certains enemies or a Malboro
Procrastination_day
Procrastination_day 2 aylar önce
So much detail on the people looking into this! Really brings this scene closer to people who aren’t familiar with it. It makes it much more interesting?
Ivann Souza
Ivann Souza 3 aylar önce
great video dude, love this game and love speedruns in general!
DoctorSwellman
DoctorSwellman 3 aylar önce
Glad you enjoyed!
Jianto
Jianto 2 aylar önce
20 years that is some love and dedication to the game
Enzo Matamoros
Enzo Matamoros 2 aylar önce
I'm kinda impressed RNG seeding had been ignored for that many years. I follow Pokemon speedrunning casually, and rng seeding is an ever-present element in the game and has always been taken into account for every run. I'm not talking the merits of these amazing speedrunners and researchers down, but its a bit disappointing that previous best runs didn't take rng manipulation into consideration whereas in other games it was how the best runs were achieved
Jonét ジョネー
Jonét ジョネー 2 aylar önce
Wow I played through FFX twice and never knew about that Ghost enemy.
Christopher Liu
Christopher Liu 2 aylar önce
First time learning about ff speedrun. Their patience is amazing but with such randomness, and having a turn-based fighting system, I don’t understand the competitive aspect of it. The world record holder basically spends more time on the game or gets luckier
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
Yeah pretty much. Or at least is generally *better* at it, if less time practicing. You can have someone who's spent 10k+ hours running the game, to have this guy with barely 1k+ just burn through it with worse RNG but still get a better time, usually because of researching, routing, and execution. While i dont think it's *quite* as extensive as other games, by far Execution and routing can make up for an absurd amount of time saves.
Daniel Hamilton
Daniel Hamilton 2 aylar önce
I am a casual player but been watching speedruns for years. This is fantastic news and a great video! ☺️🙏👍
Michael Z.
Michael Z. 2 aylar önce
FFX is one of my favorite games of all-time, and there are people out there that I can't compare to when it comes to the love for this game. 😝 Not to nitpick, but the thumbnail should be .38%.
TonyBMan
TonyBMan Aylar önce
:-) Spira is still as magical as it was in 2001. I'm glad so many love this game too!
MondayPewPew
MondayPewPew 3 aylar önce
If speedrunning community contributes in astrophysics I’m sure now we’d have discovered how to do interstellar travel
Higuera ft
Higuera ft Aylar önce
@Krak Head Now that's just a smoothbrain argument, got any proof? :V (though honestly, that'd technically only credit highschoolers more, not detract from said speedrunners. Especially the top ones...)
Col. Radec
Col. Radec 2 aylar önce
@Krak Head well that's just a false statement
Krak Head
Krak Head 2 aylar önce
Most of the speed running community haven't even finished high school 😅🤣
Daniel B
Daniel B 2 aylar önce
That's a little more difficult
Chandir
Chandir 2 aylar önce
Rossy__ is the type of guy who could hack into people's bank accounts or online casinos or nuklear weaponry. God bless him for studying how final fantasy works instead.
Rossy
Rossy Aylar önce
I appreciate the compliment... I think? lol You give me too much credit though. I merely saw a possible logic/programming problem that I wanted to solve so I could see a streamer that I love to watch achieve his goal more easily. Puzzles are fun!
zanyu
zanyu 2 aylar önce
That's awesome people are so passionate and still trying to figure out the minute details of how something works.
Fuhrious
Fuhrious 2 aylar önce
This is a SummoningSalt level quality production. Keep it up. Subbed.
Noah Sparger-Hurt
Noah Sparger-Hurt 2 aylar önce
Speedrunners are insane. Such dedication. Awesome
Gengetsu Chan
Gengetsu Chan 3 aylar önce
The video was amazing and I loved it! Just sad the the 'game breaking technique' was not something to let you skip cutscenes :(
Gengetsu Chan
Gengetsu Chan 3 aylar önce
It makes the game much better to replay! I love the cutscenes, but it gets annoying when you already watched it many times xD
DoctorSwellman
DoctorSwellman 3 aylar önce
Unfortunately not, but there is a no cutscene mod out there for the PC version!
Outlaw GT
Outlaw GT 2 aylar önce
I just started this game. I got the remastered version and I love the graphics. I'm not big on graphics usually but I'm in the first city at the very start and it's a pretty game to look at. I haven't played a Final Fantasy game since 7-8 and that was probably 20 years ago maybe? I was a teenager back then. I figured I'd play a newer Final Fantasy. I know there is the PS5 thats out but I'm on a PS3 and it's blowing my mind the way games look. I missed like 2 or 3 generations of videogames. I'm about to turn 39. I just beat Dark Souls, Metal Gear Rising, and Batman Arkham Asylum before I started Final Fantasy X.
amouramarie
amouramarie 2 aylar önce
The last console I owned was PS2 (with FFX), and I've played on PC since then. I'm not sure how long it would take me to figure out how to use modern controllers and navigate movement in modern console games. XD
Tanner Larkin
Tanner Larkin 2 aylar önce
Love speed running break downs. Subbed. Thank you!
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