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Linsey Spolidoro
Linsey Spolidoro Yıl önce
Good to know we have always hated teen girls, scornfully ridiculing anything they enjoyed as inane. Suppose some things really don’t ever change.
Lightningmonky 7
Lightningmonky 7 Gün önce
I mean it's accurate a lot of the time but hey sometimes they get it right *ahem* Taylor swift
AJ Doyle
AJ Doyle 7 aylar önce
The Beatles were a cultural phenomenon like The Simpsons in the 90s or Harry Potter in the 2000s. They were instantly widely popular and cool after spending ten years learning their craft before fame. Teen girls actually ruined many of their live shows by screeching incessantly ruining the performances for other people. One Direction were manufactured to be successful by Simon Cowell and his corporation and a huge part of why they were chosen was because they were good looking to appeal to teenage girls.
Amaal Burhan
Amaal Burhan 7 aylar önce
@Unamed Unamed it’s not because they are Male though.
Евгения Михайловна
@Chrispy teenage girls who listen to k-pop can have a hive mind though. some teens just want to cancel everything if someone disapproves of their fave
Евгения Михайловна
@Adeel Intikhab cause radiohead stood the test of timea nd ofc teenage girls will like anything that involves young guys
alystdesign
alystdesign Yıl önce
it's so weird that the beatles and elvis had so many fangirls back then and now older people are like, "this was the real music"
Lightningmonky 7
Lightningmonky 7 Gün önce
LMFAOOO
amina issa
amina issa 11 gün önce
@Nathalie Petrova such blatant lies.Many more who listened to their songs sounds/lyricism will say otherwise.
amina issa
amina issa 11 gün önce
@ifthiswaswiftie so is BTS .They literally write their songs from experience and perform live and have been praised multiple times for that and they have KOMCA credits to prove that
amina issa
amina issa 11 gün önce
@V. Villa Are you kidding?BTS music is also for males.Its just most males are prejudiced and don't want to listen to them but occurrences have shown that many have listened to their songs without even knowing it's their songs simply because they haven't told them it's BTS songs
amina issa
amina issa 11 gün önce
@Satine English is just a language .You need to understand they didn't sing in English to be liked by Americans but they were meant as cheerful songs in this pandemic.They have sung in Japanese?why don't you guys say they did that to make Japanese people like them?the superiority syndrome is really high + those songs weren't planned.
Arnab Chatterjee
Arnab Chatterjee Yıl önce
Started with the beatles...when girls used to faint and scream at the sight of them people used to dislike it. Now that its stopped, suddenly people realized that the beatles are amazing. Backstreet boys, 1D, bts....if you are hating on them or dismissing their music just because teenage girls like them then you're wrong for not even giving them a chance. Give it a chance. Its not just a bunch of pretty boys singing. I realized that a little late but I'm glad I did.
Mike Mills
Mike Mills 20 gün önce
Boy bands dance groups are manufactured,the Beatles are organically created fools
I hate coffee
I hate coffee 7 aylar önce
@AJ Doyle u do realize that "screeching" & "fainting" girls were often hired actors to create a culture of obsession with artists so as to make them more money, more popular etc. didn't they hire women to faint for frank sinatra😭
Unamed Unamed
Unamed Unamed 7 aylar önce
No one's suddenly realizing that 1D and BTS are amazing lmao.
AJ Doyle
AJ Doyle 7 aylar önce
The Beatles were a cultural phenomenon like The Simpsons in the 90s or Harry Potter in the 2000s. They were instantly widely popular and cool after spending ten years learning their craft before fame. Teen girls actually ruined many of their live shows by screeching incessantly ruining the performances for other people. One Direction were manufactured to be successful by Simon Cowell and his corporation and a huge part of why they were chosen was because they were good looking to appeal to teenage girls. The Beatles popularity with young and middle aged men a year after their debut album in 1964. trvid.com/video/video-IGSlxEoJEkc.html We're giving teen girls credit for the Beatles now ? Ok , whatever.
I hate coffee
I hate coffee 9 aylar önce
@Satine having teenage girls love an artist doesn't mean the artist isn't "artistic"...................................😯
StringGaige
StringGaige Yıl önce
Seeing that blurb about the Grammy credo and remembering "Yummy" getting a Grammy nomination for this year... Truly, a record of "sheer artistry, and artistry alone"
Sups Lion
Sups Lion Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie that's 2 words
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
one word: Scooter Braun.
Constantine McDonough
@Satine he won for 10,000 Hours now cry
A
A Yıl önce
@Satine didn’t he win country duo for 10,000 hours or something like that
Rose
Rose Yıl önce
The Academy: We can't nominate the Macarena, it's not *proper* music Also the Academy:
T PK
T PK Yıl önce
They are relying heavily this year on BTS's fans to pull up attendance records, and then moved the only category that they deigned to give BTS a nomination in (Pop Duo) to the preshow, along with Rap (POC nominees) and R&B (POC nominees) Forbes put out an article last year with a closing line that I think applies to artists like The Weeknd, as well as BTS: "As BTS continues smashing records and the Grammys continue to lose relevance, who really needs who?"
Jep
Jep 7 aylar önce
@The Cat Overlord if they create a category for Kpop, then they have to create a category for Jpop, Chinese Pop amd other language pop. Its counter-intuitive. Its a bad idea.
Ramya Cha5
Ramya Cha5 8 aylar önce
Bts sucks tbh
Roblox Barb
Roblox Barb Yıl önce
well the bts song just wasnt good in general its basic and boring and the awards are for quality of the song not fame
Robyn Dela Cruz
Robyn Dela Cruz Yıl önce
@Reinhardt Wilhelm I’ll take rain on me over dynamite.
Reinhardt Wilhelm
@Robyn Dela Cruz I’ll bite, after the fact. Exile was clearly the best song in the category, though I’ll take Dynamite over Rain on Me any day.
Jordan Montgomery
The fact that Britney Spears has only won a single Grammy and it wasn’t even televised says more than enough
Chico Gutiérrez
Chico Gutiérrez 6 gün önce
Britney Spears can sing! She's not a great vocalist but she's a good singer with a unique voice ! Even MJ and Beyonce have done lipsync!
thevoid99
thevoid99 2 aylar önce
that's actually insulting. especially since britney could really sing when she's not being guided by bad producers. i've grown to like her music.
Oluwashina Omisanya
Oluwashina Omisanya 7 aylar önce
Katy Perry also another industry main pop girl that never won a Grammy. Like they were the main girls of their decade. Major brand deals, music everywhere, sold out tours, and even if the Grammys are bought how can your team not secure that, but can lock down a Superbowl halftime performance.
jeonghan supremacist
jeonghan supremacist 7 aylar önce
@Künstlerin-DAB1995 oh shut up
Psicopato
Psicopato Yıl önce
Britney Spears ain't that great tho, but now ABBA not winning is just stupid
Hannah
Hannah Yıl önce
so the way the oscars treat animation is how the grammys treat everything, noted
Blapis-Blazuli
Blapis-Blazuli Yıl önce
@Shina Omisanya They do, it's just that there are several things wrong with it. For one, animation has as many varied genres as live-action, so just having all animated films be shoved into a single category is ridiculous (Heavy Metal and Disney's Fox and the Hound are both animated, but their content is extremely different) and if you tried doing that with live-action people would think you were out of your mind. For another, it has the outdated mindset that animation is only for children and/or not as legitimate an art form as live-action, which is also not true and something that has been discussed in better detail by people like Brad Bird (director of Ratatouille, Iron Giant, and both Incredibles films) and Owen Dennis (creator of Infinity Train). Also, as someone else said, when it comes to the winners it's almost always either a Pixar or Disney film, even when said win is seen as undeserved compared to its fellow nominees (to use this year as an example: a lot of people weren't happy that Pixar's Soul won over indie studio Cartoon Saloon's Wolfwalkers). It's argued that when it comes to choosing which one wins they only really care about how pretty the animation looks and/or which studio it comes from, to the point where something has to be mind-blowing in order to beat them (hence why Shrek and Into the Spider-Verse's wins in their respective years were huge). TL;DR: The Oscars *do* have an animation category, but it's a fucking joke and very frustrating for animation fans, so not a bad comparison to the Grammys (and, let's be honest, the Golden Globes) apparently.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
spirited away is laughing
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
it's just an award. it's not a big deal. there are still people who love you and your work. the award is not everything.
manuel martins
manuel martins Yıl önce
@Teddy Furstman à. .
Shri Siva
Shri Siva Yıl önce
A Silent Voice and Your Name deserved so much better
Jeevith Rai
Jeevith Rai Yıl önce
Queen never won a Grammy. That's all I need to know regarding the Grammies and their credibility.
Main's Main
Main's Main 4 aylar önce
@Jep well if Obama has a Grammy, Queen Elizabeth still has a chance
VV K
VV K 7 aylar önce
@Jep Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you. No, it was in the Hard rock/metal category
Jep
Jep 7 aylar önce
@VV K no i mean song of the year, album of the year, record of the year or best new artist.
VV K
VV K 7 aylar önce
@Jep the grammy awards are part of the big 4, right? if they are, then yeah
Jep
Jep 7 aylar önce
@VV K the big 4 awards?
Not_555hype
Not_555hype Yıl önce
the grammys don't define how good you are as an artist...your fans know how good you are and no grammy can ever measure that
Not_555hype
Not_555hype Yıl önce
@anjero yessir
anjero
anjero Yıl önce
music shouldnt be about how good you are, aslong as you are making art and making impressions and messages to people. ur a good musician. music is never about fans or money, its about the art of music and the art of the expressing music. even if you write a song about a girl that broke ur heart or a song about something you went through, ur a good musician.
Not_555hype
Not_555hype Yıl önce
@King Jive i completely agree
King Jive
King Jive Yıl önce
Having many fans also doesn't define how good you are, it's a lot of marketing. The most successful pop stars have a whole troup of songwriters at their hand, for example. I think when other musicians say you're good, you can consider yourself good (at least today, where there is more appreciation for all kinds of music)
Jes Miscellaneous
@Strong Woman oh for real. Personally, I also think the music, the money, and connection with fans (for the wholesome ones) or the fame (for the more narcissist ones) is what made them choose to be musicians/performers. If they could, I’m sure so many artists just wouldn’t give a fcking damn about Grams. Sadly, the “thirst” for Grammys is most probably something that was transferred or pressured upon them by Music Label Execs and producers. Unfortunate to admit but when one reads the noms list for the major categories (and even minor!), you could literally do a Excel pivot table of their parent record labels and it’d just give you the same old same old.
yeahyeahitskelsey
I kinda wish we had the grammys every year... but with no awards. Like a night with the biggest music celebrities and some super stellar epic performances. A celebration of music. And that's it. Maybe like a good worthy charity fundraiser. Like the met gala but for music instead of fashion. All the awards do is piss people of and celebrate the establishment.
clone 99
clone 99 Aylar önce
Yeah this would make me actually watch it
Oluwashina Omisanya
Oluwashina Omisanya 7 aylar önce
Wait! You definitely snapped here! This is simply genius!
Psicopato
Psicopato Yıl önce
That would be so fun, imagine the artists are allowed to just get someone from the crowd to go on stage with them, and Beyoncé starts singing because... One Republic asked her to or something lol
nina
nina Yıl önce
Another thing that has always annoyed me is the whole "music's biggest night" thing when it's clearly... not. Not only are there much more prestigious music awards but they award mostly English-speaking people. I'm not from an English-speaking country and I've always had doubts that best music in the world only came from one place lol. That always contributed for me to not take them that seriously but I understand they may be huge for an American
HEAVEN
HEAVEN 7 aylar önce
@Fatima Zahra The grammys is the classy award show. Well until WAP was perform now it's the Bet any other award show
Japanese Excellence
Japanese Excellence 7 aylar önce
That's just a hyperbole slogan for advertisement. Grammys are an American award show and Americans speak English. Lots of countries have their own award shows for their own music award shows where they don't really pay much attention to music outside or just have a single international category. Grammys get a lot of attention because it was one of the earliest music award shows created on its scale, America is a superpower and is very rich, and English is the global lingua franca.
Generation Next
Generation Next Yıl önce
Not for us either, unfortunately. Need to hit that global stage in order for me to care and have global panelists too.
nina
nina Yıl önce
@A I promise you artists outside of America have bigger and better goals than getting an award with such low criteria given by easily "bought" critics
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@A for classical categories? aw yes but for non-classical ones? hell naw full of controversies and dramas
Maiga Vidal
Maiga Vidal Yıl önce
As a Latina artist, Rosalia is a Spaniard (European) not Latina - but to the American academy it means the same thing cause WOOO, even at those levels we have ~colorism & preference for whiteness~
Shonen Jump Magneto
Shonen Jump Magneto 2 aylar önce
@Dobs407 brother The Spanish Nationals are of The Iberian Race many are just Mixed Iberian-Caucasian. In Latin America; they're darker because many are Mixed Iberian-American (Amerindian) as inAmerican 'Red' Skin not 'White' Skin. I study this stuff. It's interesting and never not relavant.
Shonen Jump Magneto
Shonen Jump Magneto 2 aylar önce
The thing many, even people of that Race don't know, is the name of that race is The Iberian (Chicano) Race. Any other name is offensive to some & honestly it covers everyone genetically, that's where everyone in Latin America came from after all. The Iberian Sub-Continent. Spanish/Spaniard & Mexican are Nationalities, not Races, like many mistakenly believe. There is a method to this madness of words. PS: The American (Amerindian) Race has a similar issue with their identity & words/denonyms for it & I don't mean white people!
Main's Main
Main's Main 4 aylar önce
@Elías Alx8 i know, so, using that logic why aren't Spanish musicians considered Latin?
Elías Alx8
Elías Alx8 4 aylar önce
@Main's Main It's because we talk spanish, a latin language.
Main's Main
Main's Main 4 aylar önce
Never understood why they call it Latin either way, don't remember the Romans conquering South America lmao
Culturereau
Culturereau Yıl önce
I'm a bts fan and it's heavily known in the fandom that bts is used for views and ratings. Grammys already has problems as this video points out, don't get me started on asian representation and the latin grammy awards. But as a bts fan and a historian, bts won't win the award bc the grammys have never given an award to boybands the case seen with backstreet boys. Mots7 deserved a nom, not dynamite.
godzilla995
godzilla995 5 aylar önce
fatherless
vivalaVtae
vivalaVtae 9 aylar önce
If mots7 was released after dynamite, maybe it would have had a better chance :((
vivalaVtae
vivalaVtae 9 aylar önce
MOTS 7 deserves the world 😭
Raymond Limbu
Raymond Limbu Yıl önce
Grammys got the lowest rating this year 💀
Sarah
Sarah Yıl önce
@POP DATA Basic? You clearly haven't paid attention to their lyrics. Dynamite is not the only song yk?
Masoma Makes
Masoma Makes Yıl önce
Bro people need to stop slandering the taste of teenage girls
thevoid99
thevoid99 2 aylar önce
as a man who back in the late 90s hated the music of britney spears, backstreet boys, and 'nsync only to enjoy it as i realized that it's damn good pop music. i agree. i don't find anything wrong with BTS or 1 direction (even though i think harry styles is getting overexposed). i may not be aware of their music but if teenage girls like it. then so what? i'll just be listening to can, spaceman 3, boredoms, and whatever weird music i can think of.
Going Under
Going Under 3 aylar önce
Or maybe teenage girls should learn/be taught to enjoy what they like without people's opinions altering that enjoyment, since that's actually a good general life lesson. As a woman these statements rub me the wrong way. It's like you want women and girls to be coddled. They are able to stand on their own two feet. Teen boys are able to easily brush off girls and women calling things like wrestling and call of duty stupid and meaningless, why do we expect girls and women to be so emotional, why do we perpetuate the stereotypes we claim to be breaking down? And to me, a lot of media aimed at teen girls happens to be shallow. It's not an insult to the audience. It's an insult to the people who make that media who see young girls as more gullible. You're calling the wrong people misogynists. I'm not letting someone accuse me of having so called 'internalised misogyny' just because I think media like Twilight and early 2010s Justin Bieber is shallow and derivitive in its actual content. But ultimately I accept that people like, what they like. It's their life.
redmage
redmage Yıl önce
@Glen Warne ok but it's the same with men and I don't see you calling them out
Sekhmet's Rag
Sekhmet's Rag Yıl önce
Real talk 💯💯
RM's Dimples
RM's Dimples Yıl önce
"We shall judge a record on the basis of sheer artistry" The record: *"yEah yOu gOt thE yUmmY yUm"*
Kinetic
Kinetic 7 aylar önce
@aleena._. Unironically better than yummy. Lmao
sana
sana 8 aylar önce
@aleena._. and it's stil better than yummy so what's your point
Psicopato
Psicopato Yıl önce
@vic but most of the time music that's made just to get popular or for the cash is repetitive to get stuck in your head, and is usually only that one beat, music that's "artful" usually tells a story and has more variaty on the rythm
vic
vic Yıl önce
@Gabriela Borges yeah but repetitiveness ≠ lack of artistry
Gabriela Borges
Gabriela Borges Yıl önce
@vic he just thinks the chorus on both songs are repetitive
Richard D’Orazi
While it is fun to see who will win a Grammy, ultimately it doesn't affect how I view an artist's work. When I listen to a piece of music, I don't think "Wow this is good cause it won a Grammy," I think it's good because it's good music.
Silvia Galvez
Silvia Galvez Yıl önce
True
vanlmr
vanlmr Yıl önce
Fiona Apple publicly pointed out the hypocrisy with the Dr Luke situation, but only her. No super popular massive artist did, because they rather turn a blind eye than to risk being snubbed by the recording academy smh
Devesh Sawant
Devesh Sawant 7 aylar önce
not really, maybe if the musician is part of the contract with one of the huge mainstream record labels..otherwise you need to have some links or you will not be even known
Ramya Cha5
Ramya Cha5 8 aylar önce
when did she say that?
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
it's kinda funny how kanye and fiona apple both criticized the Grammys and the Grammys still award them. 😂
CaptainAya 28
CaptainAya 28 Yıl önce
@Dana yeah Taylor is one of the biggest artist. I mean she is aloud to say whatever she wants but she really should of said something
vanlmr
vanlmr Yıl önce
@Dana They’re vocal when there’s no risk for their careers. What could Dr Luke take away from her? Nothing. That’s why she supported Kesha. It made her look good and it was safe. But she still “needs” her album of the year award at the end of the day. I’m a huge Gaga fan and I was sad she also remained silent.
Michael Kholodnyak
You forgot to mention the fact that Kesha didn't even get a Grammy at least for one of her 2 nominations during the year she was invited to perform. They've pretty much used her situation for some clout and woke points.
SpaceMan
SpaceMan Yıl önce
To be fair. Kesha is pretty bad
Bach Vine
Bach Vine Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie I don't feel like she "destroyed" her career, more like she faced so much success too early on that she kinda got confused as to what's next. Add her messy divorce and you get a nervous breakdown, simultaneously anxious about wanting not to let the public down, carrying the expectations placed upon her success, emotionally grieving the betrayal of a loved one, and the physical fatigue from her tour that went waaaay too long. She stumbled and sadly her manic pixie hair was more than enough for the public to brand her as already overstaying her welcome. Her new look was vilified as trend chasing, her new sound was dismissed as trying to stay relevant despite it being good, and she was labelled crazy. Even her record label abandoned her, look at how they handled her latest album. It's just a sad tale of rising so high, so quickly, that she failed to land properly in the end.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@Bach Vine can't help but girl destroyed her own career.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@Aiko still won for best alternative album but yeah i would trade hollywood's bleeding for fetch the bolt cutter in aoty category
SHAWKLAN 27
SHAWKLAN 27 Yıl önce
Yep
asteroides
asteroides Yıl önce
In an interview about what he hates about the Grammys, Eminem once said that the grammys will put down records that have high sales but dont fit their “artistic grammy darling” type. And like how you showed, the whole artistic yardstick in itself is so subjective, made even worse if the demographic of the people making decisions is a small and select one. That’s why it’s crazy when artists that sell amazingly worldwide, like The Weeknd and BTS that topped IFPI, are snubbed like that. Isn’t there a reason why they’re so popular then? If they don’t fit the artistic metric, then that’s just like what they did to Rock N Roll. Widely popular, but so easily snubbed by that certain group that seems to their subjective opinion is better than everyone else.
Rafe Archer
Rafe Archer Yıl önce
Most logical and probable answer.
No no
No no Yıl önce
As long as artists themselves care about Grammys, yes they do matter.
thevoid99
thevoid99 2 aylar önce
tell that to maynard james keenan.
Jon Hoskins
Jon Hoskins Yıl önce
"At least 51% playing time of the genre specified by the field," they said, as they give IGOR rap album of the year
ch3rry las3r
ch3rry las3r Yıl önce
@Jon Hoskins yes! black artists are only ever put in rnb and rap,
ch3rry las3r
ch3rry las3r Yıl önce
@C W yes it does-
João Gomes
João Gomes Yıl önce
@Jon Hoskins Yeah, I agree, we are on the same board. I just think that guy mentioned neo-soul because Igor was classified as such genre but anyway
Jon Hoskins
Jon Hoskins Yıl önce
@João Gomes But my point still stands. There is definitely less than 51% of IGOR that is rap-like. I love the album and I'm so glad it was recognized, but that wasn't the right way to recognize it. Even Tyler said it's not a rap album
João Gomes
João Gomes Yıl önce
@Jon Hoskins Nope, he was probably saying that Igor was classified as neo-soul, psychedelic soul and experimental hiphop. You can see it at rateyourmusic website.
Dana
Dana Yıl önce
I think the Grammys are doomed from the beginning. 1. It was built on a foundation of exclusivity with genres and white male artists being "better" 2. Music has no (maybe not yet) standardized scale/rating that encompasses the cultural impact, popularity and how well written it is 2.a. Even if there was a scale, music will always be a personal experience so everything's subjective anyway 3. Trends move faster than the crusty boomers in charge can see it. They probably still think BTS means behind the scenes
전미래
전미래 Yıl önce
“Who's to say that young girls who like pop music -- short for popular, right? -- have worse musical taste than a 30-year-old hipster guy, that's not up to you to say. Music is something that's always changing. There's no goal posts. Young girls like the Beatles. You gonna tell me they're not serious? How can you say young girls don't get it? They're our future. Our future doctors, lawyers, mothers, presidents, they kind of keep the world going.Teenage-girl fans -- they don't lie. If they like you, they're there. They don't act 'too cool.' They like you, and they tell you. Which is sick." - Harry Styles
Gemini Sam
Gemini Sam 9 aylar önce
@CaptainAya 28 Grown man still disrespect Harry Styles as an Artist tho , especially on Twitter especially in Hip-hop community.
MemeAids
MemeAids 11 aylar önce
Presidents? Hah
Niyati Shah
Niyati Shah Yıl önce
@CatharticMemeFairy Hey Angel, If I Could Fly, Walking in The Wind, What a Feeling, Night Changes, Once in A Lifetime and Stockholm Syndrome
CatharticMemeFairy
@Niyati Shah I personally haven’t observes the similarities in that. I think lyrics have similiar vibes but sonically I don’t see it. can you give some examples?
Niyati Shah
Niyati Shah Yıl önce
@Shri Siva some of Harry's music, especially from his debut is very similar to one direction's last two albums - Four and Made in the A.M.
Alexander James
Alexander James Yıl önce
As a Canadian, I see the Grammy’s as an “American” music award. I know the AMAs are different, but a Canadian artist winning a Grammy just means that artist has successfully been assimilated into the US
Alexander James
Alexander James Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie I remember JB getting a lot of anti-Canadian comments when I was in high school, I don’t remember as much for Alessia. I don’t remember Alessia getting pushed as much as JB or The Weeknd, and she performed at the Grey Cup a few years ago so I thought she still lived in Canada which would have saved her some harassment. I wouldn’t be surprised if The Weeknd and Shawn Mendes got it similar to Avril and Drake. The band that I was referring to in my second comment was Die Mannequin, but that’s a little different. When Care started her band she created a private label to retain ownership of her music and art. Any label that she worked with for distribution or marketing wouldn’t make as much money off her as someone they signed to an album deal. There was probably less insensitive for the label to promote the band because of that.
Alexander James
Alexander James Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie I don’t understand what you’re asking
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
who? JB? Alessia? Celine?
Alexander James
Alexander James Yıl önce
@Lisa Cox Canadians can be somewhat protective of our musicians and actors, and I think part of that is because of the population size differences and the cultural influence from the US. We have an internalized perception of ourselves as a small fish swimming against the current. A lot of our accomplishments; from music, arts, sports, and medicine, end up moving to the US or being thought to have come from the US because it’s easier to make money. Even some businesses can have an easier time working with US customers rather than across provincial boarders. A common criticism from young or immature fans is that moving to the US to pursue larger opportunities is a social equivalent to denouncing their Canadian citizenship. I think this is a dumb criticism, and most people grow out of it by the time they graduate high school, but it does affect artists mentally and emotionally. We don’t criticize other business or classically trained musicians in the same way. I knew a band years ago that was starting to see some success and had to make a decision about whether or not to pursue US audiences and the chance of a more stable career. They talked about how the label wasn’t going to support them internationally unless they moved to the States, but that would mean a social perception of abandoning their home. The band stayed in Canada and broke up a few years later because of internal struggles and a lack of external support. **EDIT: just to clarify after reading this again, I see the Grammys as an American award similar to how a Juno is a Canadian award or Victoires is a France music award. I encourage artists to pursue different audience or move to a different country if that’s what they want to do. My criticism of US assimilation is that Canadian artists are pushed to move to the States to receive support from their label and the industry. It’s expensive and time consuming to get artist visas to work and perform in the States, so most small or independent artists aren’t able to it on their own.
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox Yıl önce
I always wondered a Canadian's take on this...so thanks. This is interesting to know.
Matt Miller
Matt Miller Yıl önce
The big issue with any sort of rewards being given out by the people in the field, is that people are going to reward their friends or people they admire not the actual work. But then who is going to give out the rewards and award people who probably wouldn’t even be nominated in the first place. Knowing albums could be kicked off lists it feels like The Weeknd was probably kicked off any nominations this year for other artists. I am a swiftie yet I find it annoying how she can be nominated and win so many awards while Kendrick Lamar can make three of the best rap albums of all time and get one Grammy for it. That being said him winning the Pulitzer for damn is a higher compliment than any amount of Grammy awards.
Orange & Green
Orange & Green 11 aylar önce
But the thing though is that even if they weren't awarding their friends or people they admire, even if they were looking at their actual work, it still wouldn't matter, it would still be an unfair and rigged game because of personal taste. You can deem something to be a masterpiece and there will still be people who won't see it as a masterpiece because of their own personal taste which they have every right to have and is valid, and yet it doesn't mean that the piece is bad or that they are wrong. And what someone else claims to be a masterpiece you might not see it but again, it doesn't mean the thing is bad, you just don't like it and may not even have a specific reason for that, you just don't. And THAT'S the real problem. People are too different in their music range tastes. Someone from the Academy might listen to "Every breath you take" by the Police and dislike it while someone else also from the Academy might like it and bc of that, the song gets at least one vote, which is probably what happened with the song when it won best song many years ago. I'm sure there was at least ONE person in the Academy who was not a fan of the song and to them, it probably didn't deserve to win. That's why I feel like award shows like these shouldn't even exist. It's so hard to pinpoint something being good or bad when what's good and bad is subjective and relevant to the person's thoughts about it. And also, like, what happens when multiple artists have achieved the same thing? Do they all receive the award? I feel like awards like these should be given only for straight up facts. Who's the most streamed ever in the year, you can actually fact check that and compare numbers and give an award to the winner. Achievement for the most collaborations, you can actually fact check that, artist who has the longest song, artists who has the most variety of genres in an album or idk im making shit up lol but my point is it should be shit like that, things that can be literally measured in numbers and not voted on by random ass people.
True False
True False Yıl önce
There being biases in award shows is no secret in any of these award shows (Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes, etc). Many of the nominees/productions companies/record labels will send “gifts” (monetary things such as expensive jewelry, expensive vacations, etc) to many of the people in the committee to insure a spot in the nomination list, or even to win the award(s) Example here is Harvey Weinstein who “campaigned” for his movies to get in the nomination list, and to even win at the oscars. Many great deserving pieces of fine arts (Music, Flim, etc) don’t get the recognition they deserve because a lot of these awards aren’t always purely based on merit, but [again] “campaigning” (buying “gifts” to the voters in the various academies). One big example being ‘Shakespeare In Love’ winning over ‘Saving Private Ryan’ for best picture: (You can start from around the beginning) trvid.com/video/video-6tihITlPAn4.html (Go about the 6:35 mark) trvid.com/video/video-z4GvecFjLkU.html
Sass_King5
Sass_King5 Yıl önce
the fact that Kesha didn’t even win that night while Ed sheeran won and he wasn’t even there...for shape of you.... ??
Glen Warne
Glen Warne Aylar önce
@Basement_Trickster Ed Sheeran didn't deserve it but Kelly Clarkson and Pink's tracks were worse than shape of you
T R
T R 7 aylar önce
Ed Sheeran outsold now go cry about it
R C
R C Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie So not sure what this comment has to do with the conversation or why you would assume that anyone would be jealous but clearly you had to get this off our chest so I acknowledge the comment. It makes no sense in relation to the topic of discussion, but it was read. You don't have to respond to this because I will not acknowledge or read anything else you write.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@R C not you comparing a female artist whose career is more than a decade old with a boyband which is probably not gonna last after they all hit 30. the fact that 31 years old taylor's music is still going strong thst someone gets jealous says a lot about her relevancy.
Gabriela Borges
Gabriela Borges Yıl önce
@v AmOr~ cala essa boca
Brave as a Noun
Brave as a Noun Yıl önce
As a macklemore fan there's no reason he should've won over Kendrick. That was... strange.
Khôi Phan
Khôi Phan Yıl önce
@gideon damn ok
gideon
gideon Yıl önce
@Khôi Phan yeah I do
Khôi Phan
Khôi Phan Yıl önce
@gideon you walk around announcing yourself as someone who doesn’t respect people’s thoughts and rude? lmao💀
CaptainAya 28
CaptainAya 28 Yıl önce
@gideon it was relevant to the video so of course they would?
Brave as a Noun
Brave as a Noun Yıl önce
@gideon ...No, it was relevant to the video? Dude said macklemore won over someone more deserving - even as someone that likes him I recognize the man did not deserve that grammy that year.
lovelyy
lovelyy Yıl önce
i stopped caring for the Grammys ever since i learned Björk never won anything. it's fun to discuss and make predictions every year but it's so bittersweet with all the issues and bigotry and racism... feels guilty to express interest on the Grammys, like an incentive for them to continue their award show despite all the problems. this year i'll be rooting for BTS because i'm a big fan of theirs and i know how much that'd make them happy and that's about it. The Academy doesn't give me any other reasons to care for real
Liam McNicholas
Liam McNicholas Yıl önce
>Artistic value and nothing but SERIOUSLY GRAMMYS?
lovelyy
lovelyy Yıl önce
@Npc I'm knot right? so they don't award one of the most inspirational artists of all time and neither the most popular group... what do they base off? if not critically acclaimed nor its influence in the world.... we're just left with connections in the industry
Peter Anthony Castillo
Never forget when MJ and prince got robbed back in the 80s or even recent years with Kendrick losing to Macklemore and The Weeknd not even being nominated SMH
TheBamaPrinceable
@loveutill theendoftimes I wouldn't necessarily say Bad was robbed but MJ winning 7 awards for Thriller was an isolated incident. That album was far too big to be ignored and that's part of the problem when it comes to black artists getting their due... It's not enough for their work to be good or even great, it has to be exceptional in order to have a chance of winning and even then, they may not even get a proper nomination. Look at Off The Wall: an exceptional LP, widely considered so to this day, it was the highest selling album by a black artist pre-Thriller as well as being the first album from ANY artist to have 4 Top 10 hits yet the only thing Mike received that night was the Best R&B Vocal Performance for "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough". One can certainly argue that MJ was robbed that time.
Peter Anthony Castillo
@loveutill theendoftimes doesn’t change the fact that he still got robbed in 88
loveutill theendoftimes
MJ... robbed ? You mean Michael Jackson the man who won 8 grammies in ONE night ? Robbed ???
Angi 2468
Angi 2468 Yıl önce
Yes, it’s ridiculous Bad & Sign O The Times didn’t win anything!
endxofxeternity
endxofxeternity Yıl önce
The Weekend snub was truly shocking to me and reeked of Racism. I could understand if they didn't nominate BTS because they were a foreign act, but they had no cause to do the same to The Weekend, except for if they were racist bastards.
Christine Meyer
Christine Meyer Yıl önce
Until we all collectively stop touting 'grammy winning artist' or 'this artist has x amount of Grammys' as an achievement and a serious career booster...they will matter on some level. The award show is all fake and corrupt for sure...but the industry behind it still values those awards too much. I work in film and if someone works for someone who has an Oscar it really becomes a influential career piece to use. That's a problem.
FLDAS
FLDAS Yıl önce
Agree! I hope someday something very controversial happens so that the Grammys will be shut down & we’ll never look back.
Ranne Adams
Ranne Adams Yıl önce
the way nicki minaj doesn't even have one and has 10 nominations..
Ranne Adams
Ranne Adams Yıl önce
@Glen Warne wrong.
Ranne Adams
Ranne Adams Yıl önce
@Glen Warne best new artist? or u also think white man bon iver deserved it. mk
barbiexan
barbiexan Yıl önce
@Ranne Adams they blackballed her way before that
Ranne Adams
Ranne Adams Yıl önce
@Titi Hamilton well what really is enough then?
Titi Hamilton
Titi Hamilton Yıl önce
@Ranne Adams 18 hits is not enough that what it said on billboard Like she the queen of Rap
Ana-Maria Ciulavu
as Blinding Lights was 2020 biggest single worldwide according to IFPI (International Federation of the Phonographic Industry) so was BTS' Map Of The Soul: 7 the biggest album worldwide. what these two have in common? no Grammy nominations. sure Dynamite was nominated as it should have been. it was the 10th biggest single worldwide also according to IFPI, it was #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 for 3 weeks and surprise, surprise it's still charting at the moment. but nominating them in only ONE Pop category which was Best Pop Duo/Group Performance which for years consisted of just collaborations(?!?), then announcing that they will perform at the ceremony which they have always wanted, then moving this category along other categories which were dominated by POC to the preshow which was live on youtube and not on TV, to give the Grammy to a collaboration that everyone forgot about in 2020 and that didn't have that much of an impact in the charts of US or anywhere outside of it TO FINALLY USE BTS' PERFORMANCE TO KEEP 'HOSTAGE' THEIR FANS SO YOU CAN SAVE YOUR RATINGS FOR A THIRD YEAR IN A ROW ??? this was the third year they used BTS' success and fans for clout. and I can assure you as a BTS fan outside of the US I never cared about Grammys, not really, but they wanted to perform there one day and maybe even win one of the awards so of course, I wanted that for them. and yeah now I'm disappointed and pissed and a part of me wants for BTS to never seek validation from the US ever again. they are the biggest Pop act at the moment with or without a Grammy and a part of me wants them to do the same thing as Abel did: to also boycott these western award shows but then I remember what Twitter user @alapadma2 said: "Of course I want BTS to ignore the Grammys like other artists have done. But we need to understand that that's a privilege Western artists have. This is their industry, while BTS are outsiders. The Grammys would love it if an outside, resistive force stopped challenging them." so the other part of me wants for them to break the last glass ceiling because that's what they have been doing for the last years: breaking records and glass ceilings. make themselves visible and taking a chair at the table where it was possible and not where they created a separate table just for them (I'm not forgetting you VMAs don't worry). to conclude I will leave here a quote from a Forbes article "But as BTS continue smashing records and the Grammys continue to lose relevance, who really needs who?"
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
it's just a one single contest. what exactly do you want from it? you're just mad that your faves didn't win and that's it. the rest are just your excuses.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@Pong Bautista agreed. I recognized Jacob Collier from him being a nominee in the Album of the Year category along with my fav Taylor who won in the category and I would say without the Grammy, I wouldn't know or search who is Jacob and yeah his music is quite good.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@Ana-Maria Ciulavu good for you cause eventually the grammys will stop using bts for clouts and move on to somebody else. it's a systemic issue. one longass comment few people would consider reading and they probably don't even finish it in full won't change anything.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
the Grammys will still live on alongside with the Oscars, the Emmys and the Tonys. One prediction from one magazine means no shit.
Stacie
Stacie Yıl önce
@I don’t know anymore which is so weird because the academy tries to sell itself as an award show that doesn't base nominations or wins off of charts. It's so inconsistent 🙄
Luke Berrie
Luke Berrie Yıl önce
Can’t wait for the supergroup comprising of Charli XCX, Phil Elverum, FKA Twigs, Yves Tumor, Earl Sweatshirt and Black Midi to win Song of the Year next time around then. Should be pretty good.
alcoh4le
alcoh4le Yıl önce
Earl and Charli on the same record? I could die.
Holly Mangu
Holly Mangu Yıl önce
Omg yes!
June Asiimwe
June Asiimwe Yıl önce
Not gonna lie, I'd be down for that supergroup actually becoming a thing.
PROD. A.B.I.L
PROD. A.B.I.L Yıl önce
After what the Grammy's did to Kendrick and The Weeknd it's a no from me
gretchen
gretchen Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie did you see where i said “in my opinion”? 1989 is my favorite taylor album, but tpab is my favorite album period, and i think it should have won. you’re entitled to your own opinion
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@gretchen but what did the grammys say? 1989 is the winner hello?? now cry about it
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@Mansi Gaur go back and listen to your junglebook.
Reinhardt Wilhelm
Yeah, they just continue to be so incredibly out of step with the average listener. They nominate every mediocre smash hit and every song with Beyoncé in it, and then fill in the gaps with some group no one’s heard of.
Designed
Designed Yıl önce
@Cryogenix Old Skool no, but the fact that one of the most critically acclaimed and successful albums of the year with the biggest hit song of 2020 didn't get a single nomination from the grammys really says a lot
Ryan Caldwell
Ryan Caldwell Yıl önce
LMAO, I HAD NEVER SEEN THAT CLIP OF BECK WINNING THE BEST ALBUM GRAMMY BEFORE. That is amazing. Kanye showing a rare instance of self awareness, and Beck desperately not wanting to be on stage because he felt he didn't deserve the win. I had to rewind and watch it like 5 times lol.
M J
M J Yıl önce
😂😂
Ryan Caldwell
Ryan Caldwell Yıl önce
@Shailesh Kandpal It was fully self aware. He walked up there and waved it off, making a very intentional joke about the VMA Taylor Swift debacle. What he said in an interview, where he was asked to share his opinion doesn't make his walking on and off stage a self aware joke.
Shailesh Kandpal
Shailesh Kandpal Yıl önce
I mean, there was no self awareness, Kanye later gave an interview saying "Beck didn't deserve it, Beyonce did"
sunny
sunny Yıl önce
after watching this year's grammys -refuse to give poc artists nominations and/or wins they deserve (the weekend, chloe x halle, bts, doja cat, etc) -push mostly poc-nominated awards to the pre-show And end up not giving it to them (chloe x halle, bts, etc) -and using an act to promote before and during the show by teasing an award and a performance "soon" (bts, who were made to believe they would win, and whose fans were made to watch the show til the end by constantly teasing them as the next performers and then giving them a less than 3 minute time slot) i have strong reason to believe there is at least some discrimination but hey, they game beyonce, megan, her, and other black artists awards, so its impossible that they're racist, right?
Psicopato
Psicopato Yıl önce
@Light Horizons 7 and After Hours are generally agreed to be great albums tho, so...
Soulless
Soulless Yıl önce
@S damn. that's almost exactly what happen to tyler's pop album, IGOR. the grammy gave him the best rap album just because he's black (wtf)
Light Horizons
Light Horizons Yıl önce
Lmao no. Yes the Grammys are racist, but the fact you claim BTS and the other artists you mentioned objectively deserved the award is just freaking stupid. Like no, music is subjective and you ain't the truth owner lmao
Tshiamo.K
Tshiamo.K Yıl önce
They awarded black female rappers after a whole decade of Snubbing Nicki Minaj the only black female rapper eligible the whole decade.... sounds sexist and racist to me☠️☠️☠️☠️
Künstlerin-DAB1995
Perhaps some of what you perceive as racial discrimination could be solved by cutting all the useless participation trophy categories they have?
softpotato
softpotato Yıl önce
You really hit the nail on the head with the weird dissonance between who the Grammys are hyping up and whos actually winning. Speaking as a BTS fan, Armys have long been frustrated with how the boys are always getting interviews, articles, special performances - everything except an actual award (though that might change this year, fingers crossed. Turns out all it took to get nominated was to sing in English 😬)
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
this aged like milk
Rae Rohan
Rae Rohan Yıl önce
@A "manufactured pop music that they don't even create" - with this one statement you showed that you know absolutely nothing about BTS. Why are you trying to participate in a discussion on a topic of which you are entirely ignorant? Also, success = increased media coverage + awards. This is not a difficult concept to understand, yes? But with grammys they are giving tons of media coverage, but not accompanying it with an award. What does this tell us? They want the views and ratings that accompany BTS, but they don't actually want to acknowledge them as having any worth.
A
A Yıl önce
"Speaking as a BTS fan, Armys have long been frustrated with how the boys are always getting interviews, articles, special performances - everything except an actual award" Uh... none of those things have anything to do with being awarded. Why would they get awarded for manufactured pop music that they don't even create? And don't get me started on them saying they write and compose when we all know they're fake like every other KPOP group.
lovelyy
lovelyy Yıl önce
@Leah Valdez i don't think so, but with the doors finally opened they certainly took advantage of it. but i wouldn't be mad if it turns out they were testing the waters bc i know bts are gonna keep making the music they want regardless of what the US music industry expects
Leah Valdez
Leah Valdez Yıl önce
@Wordsof Harmony they are only nominated in Latin categories.
Hannie Jordan
Hannie Jordan Yıl önce
tbh i feel like it's unfair to BTS to constantly chalk up the (limited for their impact) attention their music gets to "the enthusiams of teenage girls" when they have a very diverse fanbase (i'm 26) and make truly incredible music. Also if they were at the whims of bts' fans it wouldn't have taken 4 years of chart domination and an english track (a great joyful song regardless that bts brought a ton of charisma to) for bts to get a single nomination and not even in a main category, they are up against a ton of gatekeeping. I wish you would have reviewed their album BE for example. They're the biggest music act in the world right now (check IFPI) yet don't get the critical attention and acclaim i genuinely think they deserve because of stereotypes like this rooted in misogyny ("boyband ew bad teen girls silly etc") or xenophobia ("kpop ew bad music robots homogenizing takes etc"). idk i just wish ppl would think more thoughtfully about them and really give their music a chance to shine on its own merits. think to yourself if another artist released this who i was more familiar with or had a different image would i think it was better or more valid.
Generation Next
Generation Next Yıl önce
@Hannie Jordan Possibly because most teen boys comment more on Juice wrld's content and not his looks, neither would they disown him if he decided to date, which some people believe gives credibility to his music's popularity. They don't even need Juice Wrld around to keep supporting him (R.I.P.). However, when it comes to Kpop boy groups, in the past, many fans have been huge supporters until they a) started dating and getting married b) got too old c) Went off to mandatory military service, required in South Korea. Time and again, world support has withdrawn from Kpop boy groups for these reasons. This proved the fans really didn't respect the music. Many people fear this might be the case with BTS. There's a reason BTS is hush about anyone they're dating and probably can't share because even they know many fans are only there because of their good looks. At the end of the day, many people have a hard time trusting the fans because many of their comments in music videos begin with "He's so hot" or "He's my fave" or "His looks this era-". Not always "This song is so powerful". And it's left to be seen how many will truly show how much they "respect" their music when they start dating. If you want people to take BTS seriously, the fans have to as a collective, and bring forth more commentary about their music and not their looks across the internet. The streams better continue even if one of them gets married. All of the commentary from fans about the power of their music and lyrics happen as a defense to haters, but not as an initial response. More of that (like in this thread) has to be present across the board and drown out the comments on appearance. I've been into Kpop since 2003 and have seen Kpop artists, even some of my faves like BoA and 2ne1, come and go. Talent had little to do with the world sleeping on them. They just didn't look like a bunch of hot boys.
Generation Next
Generation Next Yıl önce
@Purpleplumps While I understand what BTS had to go through to get where they are, and respect the doors they opened and the representation they are bringing, they were not the only Kpop group to go through this and be the underdogs. That underdog story gets spun all the time in their defense. Let's not act like they are more superior than other Kpop groups or deserved this more, and that their looks had nothing to do with their success. It was definitely the advantage over the other groups and even South Korean solo artists. Read about any Kpop artists that _weren't_ in the "Big 3" at the time when BTS debuted (SM, YG, and JYP). They all had to struggle, with the girl groups and solo artists struggling more than the boy groups. They were also not the first artists to be critical of South Korean society or support LGBTQ+ (BoA was the first Kpop artist to perform at Pride during an even harsher time, 2008). It helped that BTS was very attractive and one of the few attractive boy group debuts available at the time of the EXO scandals, causing most fans to switch over in 2014. Because it doesn't seem some fans can separate their interest in their appearance with the content of the music, it's hard for others to see beyond the face either and know where to place BTS's success.
Generation Next
Generation Next Yıl önce
On one hand, I do feel like men criticize everything women like, even if they are guilty of the same things when it comes to voting systems in other industries (like the movie industry). On the other hand, too many fangirls _are_ obsessed over the boy bands because of their looks and not for their content or talents, especially if we compare a group like BTS and their success to other Kpop groups that don't have members that are "as attractive", but are just as talented and maybe even far more. There are so many truly gifted Kpop female artists that have gotten overlooked like BoA, Jessi, Ailee, and 2ne1 because they don't have the boyband image, but they've been making waves in Kpop so much longer. I am grateful that BTS is bringing Asian representation to the world stage and changing the image of Asian men. However, it is the image of Asian men, once considered less desirable, that's mostly being impacted by their presence. And while many may just respect these boys' music, I think the distrust comes from how some fans have reacted to Kpop boy groups in the past. There have been many incidents of some fans boycotting Kpop boy groups (heck, even Western fans boycott boy groups) once they were found to be dating or married, like EXO Baekhyun when he dated Taeyeon from Girls' Generation. He didn't gain back favor until he dumped her. What will happen to all that fan loyalty when BTS starts dating and getting married? For me, it's left to be seen whether it's the music that's respected or the good looks. Can they grow older and gracefully, with the fans giving that same energy? Because I've seen in South Korea other boy bands fall from grace from even being seen with a woman, showing that they weren't respected for their music. So some don't think anyone should consider their popularity as proof of their musical talent. While I do think the Grammys is heavily racist, I do think that if the Grammys extend their voting, it should be to the world, and hopefully they recognize lesser artists that are talented in South Korea, and even in other nations, and not just because of the strong fandom power. I also think that many BTS fans tend to come down on people who criticize the group, even constructively in any way, causing deep resentment and people not wanting to feed into the energy. It subconsciously turns them off and not want to support them. There does need to be nuanced discussions about some of these fandoms. Regardless, though, the Grammy's should think about the popularity but also in relation to how good they believe the music actually is as well. It will always be subjective though.
Elise E
Elise E Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie im gonna assume you accidentally replied to me lmao bc i didn’t say one thing that relates to what you said.
Elise E
Elise E Yıl önce
@ifthiswaswiftie where did you get all this from? all i said was “ you just wrote “it’s not the Academy’s fault” under a video telling you how bad the Academy is...”
Jen V
Jen V Yıl önce
Love the video but bts fans do not only consist of teenage girls. In fact their image of a stereotypical boyband for 12 year olds really doesn’t fit them at all. They write their own lyrics, produce a lot of their stuff and their discography explores so many genres of music:)
Elina Tsaktsira
Elina Tsaktsira Yıl önce
@Glen Warne actually in the BE album only V did it and no one else. The op was talking about the band as a whole it doesn't matter who does it, the point is that they are very involved in the creation of their albums Plus the vocal line members have written a lot of songs, they just don't produce.
LEGENDARY STATUS
LEGENDARY STATUS Yıl önce
The Weeknd not nominated for anything is utterly outrageous, he worked way to hard for that
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
@LEGENDARY STATUS there's payola and who knows maybe he used it. again, the grammys don't care about charts or sales or records or ceritifications.
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
every artist works hard. let's leaving "they/he/she work/works/worked hard" argument only for delusional BTS stans alone. we're so much better than that.
LEGENDARY STATUS
LEGENDARY STATUS Yıl önce
@Ron~min_yoongi:3 no doubt lmao
Ron~min_yoongi:3
Ron~min_yoongi:3 Yıl önce
@LEGENDARY STATUS don't mind this person he/she is trolling everyone in the cs..seems like he/she is bored of life:))
LEGENDARY STATUS
LEGENDARY STATUS Yıl önce
@Kerry Foerster bro he had the biggest song of 2020 with blinding lights which has been #1 on billboard for over a year, he had 4 or 5 songs from his album in the billboard top 10 charts, every song from his album was on the top 100. And ur telling me he’s not good lmao
Max
Max Yıl önce
Not sure why anyone expects anything from the Grammys. At least in the Olympics it's pretty cut and clear which person crosses the finish line (though admittedly less clear who twirled the ribbon the best) but when it comes to who acted the hardest or sang the coolest that's a bit less objective.
shadez
shadez Yıl önce
There's an upper limit to the subjectiveness though? How does a Macklemore's album win over GKMC? It almost does not matter whether one likes Mackemore's album more, it's pretty undeniable that GKMC is the more noteworthy album. No one is gonna remember The Heist in 10 years.
Natalie
Natalie Yıl önce
I’ve never been one to watch the Grammys. I was actually really excited to watch them this year because BTS, the first Korean group to be nominated, are actually nominated and will be preforming. But unfortunately to the disappointment of all BTS fans, their category is being presented in the preshow..... so yea, another year not watching this overly long and overly hyped award show.
Jin Roe
Jin Roe Yıl önce
No more army watching next year and Grammy proud to announce about 12M watching on the show and for sure 90% viewers is Bts Army even army from Asia wake up 3am just watch the pre-show and after announcing Group/ Duo category from more than 1M views down to 300K
ThrottleVinnieModo
ThrottleVinnieModo 21 gün önce
I've always been puzzled by the Grammy's "Big Four" having a Best New Artist award but not Artist of the Year. Imagine the Oscars having a Best New Actor award instead of Best Actor.
armie armie
armie armie Yıl önce
unrelated but i find it funny how some areas in this comment section love perpetrating the whole dumb-girl-teenagers-trash take like... what'd the teens ever do to you lmao I understand that at times they can be found as pretty cringey but it's not like being a certain age or gender demographic plays a role in music quality? idk lolll cuz why are grown men commenting on young women. were you perfect as a teenager or smth? what?
Cherry 🍒💣
Cherry 🍒💣 11 aylar önce
@Alexis Freeman "female"
CaptainAya 28
CaptainAya 28 Yıl önce
@WOLF STAR okay, While I can see what your point is, What kind of music is appealing to teen girls??? I know girls who listen to all kinds of genre from rap to heavy metal to pop country.
WOLF STAR
WOLF STAR Yıl önce
There's a huge flaw in that argument and that is that Teenage girls grow up and when they do a lot of them start listening to different music. So yeah there is a thing as music that has teenage girl appeal.
CaptainAya 28
CaptainAya 28 Yıl önce
@Alexis Freeman yeah cause all teenage girls are like your friends/s
Alexis Freeman
Alexis Freeman Yıl önce
"what'd the teens ever do to you lmao" If you have to ask then you've never met a teenage girl. I knew teenage girls who were not just cringey but also obsessive. In high school, when I told I female friend I didn't care for certain boy band she listened to then tried to post my address online and trash talk me to other classmates. All because I didn't agree with her and I didn't even hate the boy band just didn't care for. "but it's not like being a certain age or gender demographic plays a role in music quality" I've had to distance myself from certain fanbases because the fans were so toxic and didn't want to be lumped together with them or ashamed to admit liking it.
Brody Schultz
Brody Schultz Yıl önce
Björk, the f*ucking legend and genius herself, not having ONE Grammy does not sit right with me. AT ALL
Soulless
Soulless Yıl önce
2pac, one of the greatest rapper of all time and queen, one of the greatest band of all time never win grammy. hmm
DAISHORYUJIN 95
DAISHORYUJIN 95 Yıl önce
What is the point of putting an asterisk of you’re not actually going to censor the letter it’s supposed to be censoring?
KLIN xronos fka El Franklo
Exactly, she is such an excellent musician.
Eric Brenner
Eric Brenner Yıl önce
I think she's terrible but that's just my opinion.
Raul Ruiz de Velasco
@Kerry Foerster It’s appropriately used when it comes addressing Björk. She’s a genius musician.
Soren Olsen
Soren Olsen Yıl önce
1. The RYM route 2. All of the new RYM grammy voters only vote for crazy frog every year 3. Eventually all of the old voters retire 4. Crazy Frog can now vote 5. RYM voters all simultaneously retire 6. Crazy Frog is the only voter and the Grammys are renamed the Crazy Frog's Choice Awards
skyferreira
skyferreira Yıl önce
@Christian Lazo as they should. Bjork greatest artist of all time and fiona apple greatest songwriter. Mariah greatest vocalist and men? OUT
Christian Lazo
Christian Lazo Yıl önce
@skyferreira wdym, 3 out of the top 5 albums from 2020 were made by female artists.
A Random Person
A Random Person Yıl önce
@skyferreira What why?
That_Canuck_God
That_Canuck_God Yıl önce
RYM is trash
skyferreira
skyferreira Yıl önce
if rym were to vote only white men would win lol, they hate women
Ashley Smith
Ashley Smith Yıl önce
These videos are so well made, you can tell soooo much effort goes into them!
Soulless
Soulless Yıl önce
@Mic The Snare how to edit good pls tell me
A1t3r's World!
A1t3r's World! Yıl önce
fr❤
Mic The Snare
Mic The Snare Yıl önce
Thank you!
Emma Planas
Emma Planas Yıl önce
23:45 A shining example of a African American band winning in an a category outside of the big four, not including hip-hop or R&B, has to be Living Colour. They won for Best Hard Rock Performance in 1990, beating out Aerosmith, Great White, Guns N' Roses, and Mötley Crüe. They also won Best Hard Rock Performance in 1991 beating out AC/DC, Faith No More, Jane's Addiction, and second time nominee Mötley Crüe.
Rayaz Khan
Rayaz Khan Yıl önce
But I think Mic the Snare’s point is that such a win is an outlier. Like Stevie, Quincy, Ella...etc.
The Rock
The Rock Yıl önce
MJ deserved song of the year for Billie Jean and more awards for Bad and Off The Wall.
Julio Moreta
Julio Moreta 11 gün önce
Sorry but every breath you take was the biggest hit of '83 and was just as good as a song.
Matthew Hodgson
Matthew Hodgson 5 aylar önce
Mic should do a DDD on Michael. He did it with Floyd, Bowie, Beatles and recently Queen so michael jackson definitely deserves one
Stalker 101
Stalker 101 Yıl önce
Y'all are having some great debates over the Academy's losing relevance and terrible judgement, but let's not overlook what a brilliant video essay this was and Mic the Snare's AMAZING editing.
Luke Watson
Luke Watson Yıl önce
The comments: The fact that my favorite artist has never won a Grammy and this artist I dislike has 20 tells you everything you need to know about the Grammys 😒
Danilo Celle
Danilo Celle Yıl önce
Well its true for most of the cases...
Kam Oko
Kam Oko Yıl önce
I stopped caring after the Grammys SNUBBED SZA out of all of her nominations😬
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
sza can't sing
Apollo☮
Apollo☮ Yıl önce
@Kerry Foerster Amen
M J
M J Yıl önce
@Rohirrim And a liar
Rohirrim
Rohirrim Yıl önce
SZA is trash
Christopher Rohlf
Showing "thin white Duke" bowie right before saying "golden years" was inspired. Love the channel, bud. Keep it up!
Lucy May
Lucy May Yıl önce
Honestly just pisses me off how sexist and even internally mysoginistic the opinion of "fanatic teen girls" is. yes I'll admit they can get a bit too "excited" (which is how media always paints them) but why is that a bad thing? Can't we let people enjoy the things they love? Have you seen what football fans are like? Yet No one constantly ridicules or patronizes them for their taste and passions. The Beatles were dismissed for there large young female fan base, yet they're remembered as some of the greatest musical artists in history. These artists are liked for a reason and it's very disrespectful to dismiss them because of the harmful and sexist stereotypes portrayed onto the fan base. As well as being majorly generalizing to the fan base. (And yes I know that some of these fans take shit way too far, to the extend of stalking and physically harming these artists. And I do not condone that behaviour nor do I class them as real fans). But why is it when women like something it is used against her to ridicule her and even used to emasculate a man if he may share her interests?
Japanese Excellence
Japanese Excellence 7 aylar önce
@Lucy May Bubble gum pop music is always looked down on by music snobs and critics, plus I think they single out teenage girls because they believe they only like them because they are attractive. There is also a hipster element of hate since it is a stereotype that a lot of girl bands and boy bands are manufactured by the music industry to specifically target teenage girls.
gerardo vazquez
gerardo vazquez 7 aylar önce
there are hormonal phenomena the industry knows it. the industry knows how to profit. The industry also knows that it doesn't need great artists or great songs. just pretty faces, slim bodies and simple melodies. This is a dishonest, premeditated product. a product of second category, it is not serious. That's why it's not always about misogyny. It is a matter of artistic hierarchy
Louisdiraham
Louisdiraham 9 aylar önce
I agree omg
Lucy May
Lucy May Yıl önce
@WOLF STAR I agree with that to an extent, except the Beatles music was still amazing an revolutionary even from the beginning. Despite this, however, because of the mysoginistic and sexist view of the majority of their female fan base, they weren't taken "seriously" by these music critics. Therefore, my question is, why is it when a young girl likes something, she and the artist is belittled and even disregarded in terms of respect for the artistry in question?
WOLF STAR
WOLF STAR Yıl önce
While that's a good argument there's a point people don't get about The Beatles/teenage girl fan base all of you are making. There's a huge flaw with the "teenage girls and Beatlemania" yes that's true because the Beatles when they first started were technically a boy band with very accessible songs and they appealed to teenagers however Then the "Sgt Pepper" album came and they became a very different band with psychedelic music elements and experimentation and that was the point when their appeal became much more relevant to music snobs and critics. They weren't a band for teenage girls anymore. If The Beatles had only released anything pre-Rubber Soul I'm not sure they would be considered what they are now.
Desire
Desire 11 aylar önce
I think the Grammys should stop branding themselves as "THE music award show" because they clearly don't know what they are doing with that dang committee of their's and they are only picking from songs that are huge in America (and they still pick and choose what THEY want while snubbing POC artistes and if not shoving them into tiny boxes) while ignoring a whole lot of good songs that aren't in English or Spanish
Henry Mathews
Henry Mathews Yıl önce
I’m literally subscribing, I’ve never seen someone dissect the Grammys and expose them for who they really are.............👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Henry Mathews
Henry Mathews Yıl önce
@LindaMbalz yeah
LindaMbalz
LindaMbalz Yıl önce
In the way he did.
Henry Mathews
Henry Mathews Yıl önce
@ma francisca correia 🤙🏽
ma francisca correia
SAME
Jonathan Pickering
I love Jacob collier, with all my heart, he's the person who got me more into R&B and way more genres. But I'm terrified that he will win. It's not his best album and I'm horrified if he gets forgotten after the awards and is shunned. I love this video and your commentary on all nominations this year. Edit: ppphhhheeewwwww, happy that he won one and I'm happy for Taylor
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
he is a music genius. hope to see him releasing more work in the future. he's cool!
Yoan
Yoan Yıl önce
@Alex yes indeed
Alex
Alex Yıl önce
He definitely deserved the grammy that he won
vero andrade
vero andrade Yıl önce
Yeah. And he will get a lot of hate for that specially by fans of the most popular nominated like Swift. Same to Black Pumas. Please they not.
thekickback
thekickback Yıl önce
lord knows there have been many times in the grammys where winning it has actually actively ruined your career. macklemore went straight downhill after winning best new artist and rap album of the year.
Josh Hale
Josh Hale Yıl önce
“Fetch the Bolt Cutters” not being nominated for AOTY is a damn shame
Brody Schultz
Brody Schultz Yıl önce
Yes, such a shame.
Ben Burke
Ben Burke Yıl önce
4:10 So even as far back as the 1950s, society has had a strange distain for teenage girls. Good to know, I guess?
Satine
Satine Yıl önce
@Tarō Tsushima It’s personal opinion. Do I believe they deserve a Grammy? Absolutely! But do I believe Dynamite is the one that deserves it? In my personal opinion, no. I’m just offering some opinions and I’m also trying to explain the perspective of people who have LITERALLY NO hope/praise for BTS. While I’m not a hater, I do think there is bias within the fandom, and I’m trying to provide an explanation. That’s all :)
Tarō Tsushima
Tarō Tsushima Yıl önce
@Satine It's one thing wanting new perspectives, but every single comment thread that somehow mentions BTS in a positive light? I'm not an Army but I have friends who are and I recognize the group's efforts. All I'm getting is a lot of passive aggressiveness because despite literal paragraphs explaining their artistic integrity you're still gonna shun them under the guise of 'polite discourse' because it seems like you've got your mind pretty set.
Tarō Tsushima
Tarō Tsushima Yıl önce
@LEGENDARY STATUS This is exactly what they're saying. Remember the Beatles used to be slammed for the same reason and now are seen as music pioneers. Because all music that has a target audience of teenagers has to be absolute shit
RM SJ SG JH JM KT JK
@Satine That "very large" group of people you're talking about is not even 5% of >400Mil ARMYs. Even then, us ARMYs don't claim them, we reject them. Teen heart-throbs? The name literally means to block out stereotypes, criticisms, and expectations that aim on adolescents like bullets, to preserve the values and ideals of today’s adolescents.” I don't know where the heart-throb is, especially when they were hated for their looks until pretty recently. Their marketing is literally with UNICEF, Jungian, Hesse, their life. Lack of experimenting with music? There's literally genres upon genres in a single album of theirs. Check Black Swan or something. Sex symbols, for simply having good looks? I don't understand. Sexualized, yes, actual sex symbols, no.
Satine
Satine Yıl önce
@Saaadia Oop. It’s an offended army. I shouldn’t be exempt from making suggestions and having conversations just because I’m not a huge fan of BTS. I actually greatly appreciate having conversations with dedicated fans because I learn new perspectives. And if I happen to disagree with them, I can respond according to how I feel. Also, IM LITERALLY A TEENAGER. I’m not disregarding anyone. I’m offering an opinion. Would you care if I shat on The Beatles? No, because you’re biased. I don’t want you to view my comments as making threats or bullying BTS. As a person who has a passion for music, I’m making suggestions for what they can do and what would be interesting to see in my opinion. Also, I think my comment that you’re referring to doesn’t really validate your point because I gave my opinion on BTS’ career (which my opinion isn’t entirely positive), but I also presented why BTS are still successful despite not winning a Grammy. Sure, a Grammy can mean a lot, but if they win everywhere else, is a Grammy really needed in their case? I’m happy to have a discussion, but if you’re going to take multiple jeers at me for offering my perspective, I’m not going to reply to you anymore because it’s a waste of energy.
Matt S
Matt S Yıl önce
There should be a TRvid Critics Academy featuring Mic, Mark from Spectrum Pulse, Anthony Fantano, Jon from ARTV, Luke from Rocked, Shawn Cee, the members of Dead End Hip Hop, Todd in the Shadows, the Rap Critic, and whoever else you can find.
Rayaz Khan
Rayaz Khan Yıl önce
I like this idea as a starting point, but that could easily run into a similar systemic issue. So I’d entrust Mic the Snare and people of similar brilliance to figure out how to collaborate with an actually representative, diverse consumer base in order to shape the new Academy itself.
James
James Yıl önce
Honestly the fact that Sonic Youth, a band who had a long, fruitful career and produced some of the greatest, most groundbreaking and influential rock music ever recorded, was not once even nominated for a Grammy in their entire 30-year-long career proves a lot of the points made here. The Grammys exist to celebrate the status quo of the music industry, shying away from promoting anything threatening to the status quo like Sonic Youth, who influenced the likes of Nirvana and Radiohead.
baibiebaibea
baibiebaibea Yıl önce
eversince someone pointed out that they only nominate really great artist/performers (mostly bipoc) for them to perform hence more people watching and then give the award to those safe bets... its tiring... its a special little club of the elite. what if artists just boycott grammys? i wonder what would happen...
Satine
Satine Yıl önce
@user It basically means black, indigenous (Native American), and people of color all in one. Technically black people in this scenario doesn’t really count as a “person of color.” So, if you were to say “poc” when talking about black people, it’s not really correct (not saying black folks aren’t minorities). You would most likely just say black in that situation. Indigenous means Native American. But there have been debates if Native Americans count as poc or if their primary characteristic has to do with political issues (in this case, it has to do with political issues). So if you can’t understand my crusty definition, basically people use bipoc for this reason: - poc is a very very broad term. It’s hard to really tell what you mean when you say poc because it’s not very specific - bipoc is a little more specific because it focuses more on black and indigenous people (because that has often become the main topic of conversation regarding race) I personally don’t use it. I think it sounds too wordy and Twitter-ish. But if there’s a specific situation where that term fits. I would use it. Hope this helps.
Chai Zan
Chai Zan Yıl önce
@baibiebaibea I agree but don't get your hopes up for nothing, there's a history and legacy behind the Grammys and that's what's allowing the academy to still persist throughout the years even tho it has lost all credibility. Essentially, I stand for artists who don't need a prize like this to get the respect they may need. No artist nowadays needs the recording academy to be deemed a "renowned musician", from Queen, to Bjök, to some may say BTS, or other Korean artists that definitely have it in them to get a Grammy. Nowadays the musicians themselves don't really need that award in my opinion.
Chai Zan
Chai Zan Yıl önce
@Satine aight.
Satine
Satine Yıl önce
Well, shouldn’t the Grammys have talented people on the awards? Because I don’t want a total lip syncer on the stage.
baibiebaibea
baibiebaibea Yıl önce
@Chai Zan yeah true :< I really hope theres a new awards show fit for our times that will become more credible and bigger than the grammys!
*POW* PunkOnWhiskey
It only matters to those nominated. The public don't really chat about the Grammy's or what it means because it doesn't really amass to anything. Its more of a self celebration if anything imo.
elektricis
elektricis Yıl önce
whenever the academy is wrong (so, most of the time), i'm either angry and/or disappointed. but then when they get the win right, it feels so victorious and joyful*. i really can't explain why these inane circle-jerks evoke such intense feelings in me and so many others, even when we KNOW they ultimately don't matter. *can't remember the last time it happened w/ the grammys (rip) but a great example of a triumphant moment like this was the parasite oscar sweep
Mansi Gaur
Mansi Gaur Yıl önce
Probably because America has always sold Grammy/Oscars as the pinnacle of artistry even though only few awards every year are won by deserving artists.
aditidurgapal
aditidurgapal Yıl önce
Being a citizen from a non white non English speaking country I never paid much attention to the Grammys until this year only because bts was nominated. Its because the boys care ,the fans care fully knowing that they don't really need a grammy. I guess they see this as a final frontier to acheiving everything. Even now the lack of a Grammy can fuel them to keep creating lot of good music. Once they get it, I imagine they would be like "what next? We have already achieved world domination and the status of an icon"
Lukas
Lukas Yıl önce
Thank you for educating me on this. I honestly didn't know most of this. Especially the Deborah Dugan situation
Leo
Leo Yıl önce
I just wanted to say thank you so much for the videos you make, the quality and the amount of effort you put into them is genuielly amazing, and it always brightens my day whenever you post a video, I just really appreciate what you do, as people on the internet go, you're pretty cool :)
Alex Jenner
Alex Jenner 11 aylar önce
6:25 also noteworthy is one of the albums beaten by Christopher Cross, was "The Wall", by Pink Floyd, who never won a Grammy for any of their albums. They did go on to win Best Rock Instrumental Performance for "Marooned" in 1995 (no I don't remember that one either), so they arguably did better than Bowie did in his lifetime.
monie802
monie802 Yıl önce
Ok, so I love Black Pumas and I think Eric Burton is incredibly talented. I'm so proud of them for getting the credit they deserve with that Grammy nom...... but I did not put together the math on release dates. That is SO shady and really puts a damper on their nomination for me. :/
Monty McGee
Monty McGee Yıl önce
Great video! I enjoyed it a ton and learned things so that's pretty cool. Also, wanna commend the comedic timing in the editing, actually audibly laughed
Mic The Snare
Mic The Snare Yıl önce
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
orlock20
orlock20 Yıl önce
I believe the goal of the Grammy Awards is to get viewers and the actual awards don't matter. It does this by getting famous artists nominated for the night time awards rather than talented artists. It's the daytime nominees that interest the voters because it's friends voting for friends (if you are an outsider you won't get nominated).
Künstlerin-DAB1995
Sounds about right. It may also explain why they stuff in so many categories.
Tommaso
Tommaso Yıl önce
As a non-american, very few people care about Grammys outside of the USA.
Julio Moreta
Julio Moreta 11 gün önce
Well they were not made for you to care lol
Doug Vale
Doug Vale Yıl önce
Like the Grammys, in Canada, nobody gives an eff about the Juno awards
Lance Hamilton
Lance Hamilton Yıl önce
The Music industry cares 😂😂the music industry doesn’t care about what people think
CaptainAya 28
CaptainAya 28 Yıl önce
@ASF lol yeah
ifthiswaswiftie
ifthiswaswiftie Yıl önce
Yes. we're like okay so who wins this and who loses that oh congrats or poor them and then now what? 😂
Crazy Spirit
Crazy Spirit Yıl önce
Man all the facts in this video are so on point. Grammys always award the most comfortable artist in my opinion, that are most easily digestible for the audience. They do nominate some well-deserved artist in this process but the amount of snubs are ridiculous.
rats belong nowhere
dude, you’re incredible your videos are so well done, funny, and informative. You deserve a lot more than what you got and I’m certain that you’re only gonna get more and more successful keep it up!!
Milan Hasmonek
Milan Hasmonek Yıl önce
depeche mode is tragically underrated in the us! i doubt at this point they’ll be inducted into the rock n roll hall fame, another arbitrary and shallow measurement of american musical success
Elsie Clark
Elsie Clark Yıl önce
Your videos are always so clear, so well considered, and so obviously passionate about the topic at hand. Thanks for making them, they always make my day!
amaja
amaja Yıl önce
great, well researched video. honestly i don’t think award shows can ever be totally relevant now. there’s far too much mingling of genres and too much good music across the world for it ever to be represented fairly.
Gustav Hansen
Gustav Hansen Yıl önce
THE most formidable video on this subject I have ever seen. Crazy good analysis and use of video essay tropes, along with sick jabs and funny cuts. Goddamn man, I am gonna shamelessly plug this video to every single person I know who will care. I stan your channel so hard Nick, keep on being an amazing creative.
A Chaotic Gay Named Chris
*THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ADDING AGAINST ME! INTO THE ALBUMS DONE BY WOMEN CATEGORY, WE LOVE RESPECTING TRANS PEOPLE'S IDENTITIES* I have seen too many people misgendering her or using her deadname and it's really disheartening to see.
LezbeOswald
LezbeOswald 7 aylar önce
that was such a subtle pro-trans move i love it :)
My name is Aminé
Hope this goes viral so people can educate themselves, I’m tired of having the same arguments about the Grammys over and over.
Mariella
Mariella Yıl önce
The Weekend’s storytelling is amazing. The Grammy’s are milk toast to the max.
Nelsaline
Nelsaline Yıl önce
the Grammys dont matter but at the same time they're a tradition you keep doing because you've always done it before. I find year end top ten lists from music nerds to be really valuable because I can see what music everyone had in common, and sort through the lists to see what I want to check out. I would've never listened to punisher, perhaps my most listened to album of this year so far, without doing this.
rockaway0beach
rockaway0beach Yıl önce
"What's left to say about the grammys?" * Makes 40 minutes of video *
Sihle
Sihle Yıl önce
could have been 2 hours honestly
Chrispy
Chrispy Yıl önce
It's very informative 🤷‍♀️ I learned a bunch of new things.
Zahirah Davis
Zahirah Davis Yıl önce
Ig there was things left to say then lol
Proggy Froggy
Proggy Froggy Yıl önce
As a metal fan looking at their metal nominations, yeah no. Awards like these in general don't matter. What matters is the impact your music has on people.
RVS 1984
RVS 1984 Yıl önce
Always remember this, Madonna was ignored by the Grammy's from 1983 up to 1998. Even her most artsy, most personal, and her critically and commercially successful album Like a Prayer in 1989 never gets a nomination. Only in 1999 when Madonna was finally recognized by Grammy's. So the point here is that, you can be a very big superstar in the world, even without a Grammy.
Jasper Lavan
Jasper Lavan Yıl önce
I feel like the Grammies should get rid of categories and just award a group of artist that made an impact on the year, whether commercially or artistically
momo luvr
momo luvr Yıl önce
as someone who has been stuck listening to the same music for years I would love to see a video of you recommending albums based on albums people may already like! your reviews are some of the only ones I trust lmao
Nick Govindan
Nick Govindan Yıl önce
Mic, I put so many pins in it that I ran out of pins. Luckily they all paid off, thanks for another amazing (& well researched) video.
Browk
Browk Yıl önce
I find it fascinating how the grammys and oscars differ so much. Pretty much nobody respects the grammys. The grammy winners reflect the opinions of absolutely nobody. Not the charts, not critics, not internet weirdos like us. Nobody. The oscars on the other hand don't seem to try and maintain this balancing act between what's popular and what's critically good. Of course, they're not perfect, but they seem to reflect the actual good stuff that comes out each year.
Lisa Cox
Lisa Cox Yıl önce
That's not true that the Grammy and Oscars differ so much. It's also not true that "nobody respects the Grammys". Don't let The Weeknd and a few other people may you think that...because it's not true.
Catarina Barbosa
Catarina Barbosa Yıl önce
the oscars and the grammys have a lot of the same problems, just look at the way they treat the technical categories and animation
Michael Adkins
Michael Adkins Yıl önce
The Oscars have their own list of gross embarrassments for awards. Their are whole TRvid videos about it. Ill watch the Grammy performances the next day, include Blinding Lights and skip who won what.
Wherewego!
Wherewego! Yıl önce
The Grammys don’t matter in the slightest. Gonna watch ‘em anyway.
M J
M J Yıl önce
😭😭
Severus Snape
Severus Snape Yıl önce
And therein lies the hypocrisy.
vero andrade
vero andrade Yıl önce
@CJ yeahh the full list of many 60 categories is a great form to discovered new artist in new genres
Aditya Raina
Aditya Raina Yıl önce
@alondra g. 😫😫 Same
Juggie Bonebrain
Juggie Bonebrain Yıl önce
I don't watch
Venus Athena
Venus Athena Yıl önce
Your story telling skill is on another level, i mean you make me watch 40 minutes video like an easy task
Corde C.
Corde C. 11 aylar önce
"You could literally beat the shit out of a nominee, they ask you to perform twice at the Grammy's." -Seth Rogen
Nick Ford
Nick Ford Yıl önce
Honey wake up, new Mic The Snare video
Swishy Blue
Swishy Blue 8 aylar önce
(Wakes up a year late, scrambles downstairs like a putty crab)
Thierry Henry
Thierry Henry Yıl önce
Who cares about the Grammys? I never.
UnwrittenSpade
UnwrittenSpade Yıl önce
Honey go to bed, new Mic The Snare video and I wanna watch in peace
Ian Byrne
Ian Byrne Yıl önce
I told you before! She can’t hear you silly! This is a youtube comment!
James Selway
James Selway Yıl önce
I come in the comments to make this comment word for word and what do I goddamn see? Good on you good person
amparoohoo
amparoohoo Yıl önce
what i find a little bit frustrating is how some fans were trying to compare bts to the Beatles (because the beatles were ridiculed for having a largely female fanbase, and now they're cemented as an incredibly talented group) and people are trying to brush that off by saying that the beatles were only heartthrobs in the beginning of their career before having an artistic era where they began being more artistic. bts have BEEN artistic. they constantly challenge the bounds of genre and incorporate incredible word play into their songs. they're amazing at their craft and even if the multiple genres they sing and rap in isn't your style, you can't deny that they love music and know how to make it good. bts aren't just lucky to be famous because of their looks, they're talented, insightful people who continuously push out artistic albums. i don't know what else to say but to advise you to listen to their albums and actually try to understand their lyrics. their most recent album BE focused on the impact of the pandemic on loneliness and desperation. idk but it irks me that some people try to downplay bts like that.
Kevin 5012
Kevin 5012 Yıl önce
Yesss I’m a massive fan to both the Beatles and BTS and I agree 100%, ever since 2 cool 4 school BTS have been artistically evolving and innovative, map of the soul persona 7 is a groundbreaking album, and had everything to sweep up the Grammys, but bc of the preconceived notions of KPOP and boy bands and western media’s racism/xenophobia is why it isn’t seen as huge.
mojo
mojo Yıl önce
wow this video was phenomenal, this really puts it into a whole different perspective. great vid!
TheBamaPrinceable
Looking at the many legends of the 20th century who've either never won a Grammy, did so posthumously or were under-rewarded during their career, I find it hard to feel much sympathy for names like Beyoncé and Kanye not winning AotY when they've both got over 20 awards to their name. The Grammys have been a joke but I can't even get worked up over the NARAS' ineptitude anymore.
Nyx Queen of Shadows
this just makes me sad. the grammys are kind of like job interviews, the company are lying, the interviewees are bullshitting, and the person who gets it is more based on who the interviewer liked that day and whether they had lunch on time, and everyone is Fully Aware of all of these things but we go along with it anyway cos that's the way it's always been. plus all the racial/gender bias that's so ingrained into the system now that everyone is just, mildly unsurprised (to borrow from the video). i hate that i was one of those people mentioned, who when the news came out and while watching this video was just like yeah, of COURSE there's all these biases, it's /The Grammys/. i hate that that's a mindset i can have as a human being. great video, amazing job with the research, and i hope that we will be able to completely restructure things like the grammys so that they more reflect what society is, or at least what we're currently working towards.
Natacha Pizzini
Natacha Pizzini Yıl önce
Yes! Thank you! I’ve been a coldplayer for more than a decade and EL is such a mess. Great songs, not really an album. More a compilation of quarantine songs. Please please consider doing a discog dive (please). I’d love to hear what your thoughts are on the rest of their catalog.
Y5Warrior
Y5Warrior Yıl önce
I agree with everything Tyler said. It’s as if the Grammys have this set way how R&B is made but doesn’t recognize it unless it meets their standards. Totally shunning great projects they don’t fit in their set mold.
Mecha Jay
Mecha Jay Yıl önce
I tuned out from the Grammys this year, and from what I've been hearing, I didn't miss much.
Mecha Jay
Mecha Jay Yıl önce
@DafterEverAfter Thanks!
DafterEverAfter
DafterEverAfter Yıl önce
Love your pfp
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