Disney's *HERCULES* is so STRONG! FIRST Time Watching and Movie Commentary!

Is it actually 2 words in ANCIENT Greek tho? Modern Greek is pretty different.

*gasp* Thanks for the fun fact!

It feels more like a "What-If" movie...

@Andrea Y. S. Escasa right, Hades was actually the most chill guy.

The most unrealistic part is Hercules being a good person.

The next most unrealistic thing would be Hades being the bad guy.

Honestly 😂

Fun cause Zeus sucks and Hades kidnapped his wife but was actually kind

@Summer Rose They definitely knew, but when you’re marketing to kids, the Zeus=God, Hades=Satan comparisons are easier for the intended audience to understand than the actual Greek myths. Most adults today would struggle with the “king of the gods” being a pretty scummy dude, yet still treated with deference by gods and men alike, while the god of the underworld being a dour, but ultimately good guy.

@Summer Rose probably

I know right.

Tell that to Hera who litterally is his sister and wife. Or Poseidon and Appolo who have been changed in human for long period of time

@catsruleable no argument there

@Entertainment Life it will always be funny:)

oh... well I always just took that as a funny joke

In the Greek version he says "I quit" which is one word in Greek so Hercules is counting the syllabus

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Also, Pegasus was just a baby! What was he gonna do? :(

There is a book series called Disney Twisted Tales and book 11 is called Go the Distance. Meg becoming a Greek God is exactly what happens. You should read it. You can read just that one. They are standalones

@jariah92005 Look, I know the Greek versions are different from each other, I've read enough of them to know. Some versions he's raised a prince, others by farmers. Some versions he was only supposed to do ten labors and two got disqualified, other versions he was always meant to do twelve. Some versions he killed his teacher, others he didn't. But there are enough similarities that one can compare what generally happens in the Greek myths to what happens in modern interpretations, like the Disney movie. In many, but not all, Greek versions he was poisoned by his wife and jumped into flames and died. After that he ascended to Olympus and became a god. In the Disney version, he turns down Olympus so he could stay on Earth with Meg. (Personally, I prefer Disney's ending) So, what was wrong with that? Here's what typically happened in Greek stories, here's how the Disney movie is different. The only person turning this into an argument is you. Perhaps I am an idiot for continuing to respond, but it appears I've let my pride get the better of me. In any event, I feel there's nothing here to prove. We all know the Disney Renaissance movie is different from a bunch of Greek stories passed on through oral tradition thousands of years ago. I've established I think it's okay to talk and even joke about those differences without being critical of them or the stories as a whole. It would appear you do not agree, which is fine. I simply ask that you allow others to do as they please as long as they're not hurting or harassing anyone.

“people are just playfully jabbing at how far off the movie is from the myth.” That statement insinuates the myth you’ve heard is the only real, legitimate story of Hercules. You also agreed with another commenter about the morality of a character that was painted darker in the movie that what you’ve learned. If you enjoyed the movie then why waste air entertaining the idea that you’re particular interpretation of the myth is the only valid interpretation out there, its like you’re saying “it’s a cute movie for a pack of lies”. Its ridiculous . Again, we are talking about myths. Stories brought down from literally generations of people by word of mouth before being written down by different people. We are NOT talking about published works we can go back to and study for inaccuracies in different film versions.🙄. Dickens and Rick Riordan works are something we can ACTUALLY see in their original forms and legitimately use as a base for film adaptation criticism. Again, not the same at all. Riordans work only uses Greek mythology as a base to tell his original story. Not the same. And YOU brought up his work, not me. His books have nothing to do with this conversation and I haven’t commented on how I feel about them at any time. You’re trying to use them to back up your argument and it doesn’t work. They’re not myths and they’re not part of classic literature. You’re desperately reaching. As for Dickens. Please just stop. You’re not doing yourself any favors. A Christmas Carol isn’t a myth passed down orally for generations . Its a published novel you could have always bought in its original form to this day. Smh. No one’s talking about that work. It’s not comparable in any way. The filmed adaptations of his classic story are pretty clearly interpretations and can be criticized as such because the original text can actually be studied. Again, not the same. You keep wanting to treat Greek mythology as something we can see in an original written form. We can’t. These myths were orally shared over generations before being written down in various forms. Homer used Heracles in three different allegorical ways, two of which being Homers Illiad and Odyssey. Homer HIMSELF changed the narrative of his version to tell his story , showing that the interpretation of Greek mythological characters can be based on different stories and legends from all over the country. So all you’ve done by bringing him up is prove that any interpretation of these stories is valid. Of course you also know that the story of Herc changed with the times, right? The medieval Herc was quite different from Renaissance Herc. Btw, that is surely the Herc you’ve read about as you’ve stated you were a student of Latin and Medieval Greek mythology was all written in Latin. The original Greek texts that existed weren’t even used for reference. Very interesting. So, basically, the myths that were finally written down by the people that originated them were not used in Medieval times to bring the stories to new generations. So already there were many “new” versions surely influenced by Christianity, politics and war. I digress. Anyway, the bottom line is you tried to demean Disney’s work for not being “accurate” when NO interpretations can be deemed “accurate”. There have, and always will be, different versions of these classic Greek myths. Criticize the film all you want but to call out historical inaccuracies is redundant. There’s no way to fact check mythology. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jariah92005 My point with the Percy Jackson thing, was that I didn’t need something to be similar to the original story to enjoy it. It’s a story about a bunch of teenagers at a magic summer camp dealing with the Greek gods, for crying out loud! I know Olympus wasn’t on the 600th floor of the Empire State Building in the Ancient Greek stories. I don’t care. They’re great books.You’re being a little hypocritical by making a big deal about them being different from mythology because you’re complaining about me doing the same thing. Second, I never used the word “real”. I even went back and checked my comments. You must’ve seen some else and mistook them for me. One of my favorite books, possibly my favorite, is Charles Dickens A Christmas Carol. As we all know, the Muppet version is the best adaptation. If I were to say “In the book there was only one Marley” does that mean I’m bashing the movie for having Marley and Marley? No, I’m not saying one is better than the other, merely pointing out a difference between them. It’s the same thing with comparing Hercules to Homer’s version.

@Hunter Lawrence Id say calling the interpretation you’re familiar with the “real” mythology is a bash. You basically just said Disney’s has no credence to be called mythology. Implying it’s not legitimate because it doesn’t follow what you’re familiar with. And, of course you realize that Percy Jackson isnt a mythological character at all, right? He isn’t based on any actual myth, HE’S the original creation where the Greek Gods are the actual mythic creatures. I mean, yeah, he was NAMED after Perseus but thats not supposed to BE him. He’s actually based on the authors son. 🤷🏽‍♂️. So. I mean, not the same at all. You not pointing that out or making that distinction kind of has me doubting that you have any idea what you’re talking about.

@jariah92005 One, I never bashed it. I think you have me confused with someone else. I was defending it, but also saying that talking about the differences between interpretations doesn't necessarily mean someone is bashing one or the other. I grew up loving this movie, and still do. It was my introduction to mythology. Later in my childhood I discovered Percy Jackson and watched many myth videos on the internet. Then, of course, we had to read multiple versions of this myth in middle school. Throughout high school I was an accomplished Latin student and involved in many classics related activities. I admit I am no expert but I believe I'm justified in claiming to know a little about what I'm talking about. And again, all of us classics nerds loved this movie, I don't know how you got the idea I didn't.

I also liked her in the DCOM, Gotta Kick It Up.

Cause of Hera!!!

@Blade I know.

@Sweet Tright, but I'm not writing the the script🤷‍♀️ I'm just telling what things mean😅

Right but this is supposed to be a Greek story but they told the Roman bastardisation of it but still call it Greek.

Damn, this movie is a part of my childhood, but I've never noticed that until now!

oh wow clever!

@erain martinez I agree and they're pretty big

I agree about his feet being too big 9:34

A good movie, but not my in my Top 10 renaissance movie. It’s my father favorite….. for some odd reason.

"Hell Fire" anyone? That song kinda scared me as a tween. It's the song you always skip. (There's almost always one song in every Disney soundtrack)

yes

YAS PLEASE. ONE OF MY FAVOURITES. MEG, ESMERALDA AND ANASTASIA

“morning in Paris the city awaits...” 🙌🏻love hunchback

@Shiki Tohno … are you serious angry with me for pointing out the inaccurate information between the movie and the mythology? You need a life bro

I agree that ‘I won’t say I’m in love’ is probably the one of the best songs in the show (second only to the opening number) but from a thematic and musical analytic standpoint, ‘Go the Distance’ is the anthem (or central theme) of the movie

@Parise Wellington i can tell you that as a greek im not bothered. Its s fun movie just dont use it to study for your test XD

Same even though this movie was so incorrect when it comes to actual greek mythology I love it so much

@M. Evripidou yeah that, thank you

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@Osman Yousif That's neat. I did know that James Woods loved the role so much, he said he'd voice Hades again for any price, which is why he retained the role so many times for Kingdom Hearts.

Jack Nicholson was originally set to play Hades, but due to his schedule and the studio unwilling to share merchandising purchases with the actor, ended up turning it down. But someone, recommended James Woods due to his ability to ad-lib his dialogue in films. And when they brought Woods in, boy did he improv a lot. Most of what you hear in his Hades role, was improvised, giving Hades the sleazy businessman vibe.

@Osman Yousif Hmmmm…that could work

@Joe DeSena , How about Micheal Keaton as Hades? Give him the energy of Beetlejuice, an his voice like in Chick Hicks from Cars....

@azgirl James Woods isn’t exactly the most liked person in Hollywood right now; turns out he’s sexist and racist, so I don’t see him returning. The two actors that come to my mind for Hades are Jeff Goldblum and Robert Downey Jr. I think Hades is one of those characters where any actor who’s given the role should give their own take on it instead of trying to copy what came before them (another example is the Genie).

And James Woods as Hades!!! He absolutely loved the role and said he'd do it again. Hopefully that's still true. He may not be a good person, but this role is iconic.

@M. Evripidou yeah it’ll 100% tanking they take the comedic value out and try to make it something it’s not

Damn! Disney really does clip the stories they portray to keep things happy and chipper! I remember different people pointing out how dark and/or depressing a lot of Disney stories would actually be if they portrayed the entire thing, or portrayed the story exactly as it is in the classic, original version of whatever fairy tale or book the Disney movie was based on.

@Hunter Lawrence thanks a lot for all these information, I love literature so I'm always ready to know about myths, novels and legends. I know about all the affairs of Zeus and Hera's cruelness towards everyone but I never read what Hera did to Hercules. Not to mention disney totally made the movie opposite of real myth. Hades was actually the most sane one out of all of them.

@Jasmine Lawrence Yeah really eh, lol. Zeus cheats on Hera, his sister/wife, to make Hercules, who in some stories Hera unknowingly breastfeeds as a child, then he grows up tortured constantly by Hera, eventually marries a goddess named Hebe... who 's parents are Zeus and Hera...... dysfunctional may be an understatement lol

@Hunter Lawrence ahhh literally takes me back to Latin and Greek mythology class in high school

@Tøøbà Khalid He was cursed to kill his family by Hera, and was so horrified he asked the oracle how to repent. The oracle, under the control of Hera, told Hercules he had to serve his cousin, the king. Thus starting his infamous twelve labors Hercules is known for. A few of the events shown/referenced in the movie are some of his twelve labors, the biggest being the battle with the Hydra.

FACTS

I wish we had this treatment

Fun fact his gmgreek name is ACTUALKY Heracles while the Roman is Hercules

@M. Evripidou To be fair, that was considered a lot even back then

@CarlyCChapman oh no, I get that and I loved the movie. It’s more of a pet peeve 😂

It's a DISNEY MOVE, don't expect it to be exactly like the original Greek stories.

Don't forget The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Yay finally someone who also likes that movie.

@M. Evripidou I was talking more about how it’s typically translated into English from Greek vs. Latin

@Hunter Lawrence the greek is Erakles , without the H at front and Era, again no H

Heracles is his Greek name, (named after Hera in a failed attempt to calm her wrath), Hercules is his Roman name. Oddly enough this movie uses all Greek names except for the main character.

@gaiatheroyalrabbit the Greek name, which is still used today, is Erakles

Erakles, without the H at the front

Yes. Those 2 movies are really underrated. Love them both.