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David Graeber on Debt, Service, and the Origins of Capitalism

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Aleksius Butilkinas
Aleksius Butilkinas 2 yıl önce
This man had an ability to make statements that were just such intellectual bombs. He made these statements so freely and almost at a whim. He also had his own flavour the way he presented his thoughts. That made his presentations fascinating to listen to, especially when he had so many interesting historical facts to support them. At the end of the day Prof. David Grabber just seemed like a very nice guy that you would love to talk over a coffee. RIP
Rajiv Rovera
Rajiv Rovera 2 aylar önce
@Chris Freebairn I hope the critiques do not come from the Austrian school
Chris Freebairn
Chris Freebairn 4 aylar önce
@Justin Watson sure & I recommend you read some critiques of Marxist thought .. seriously dude talk about red flags.
Justin Watson
Justin Watson 5 aylar önce
@Don Ra Star that is not a good definition of capital, because we all have things of value but we aren't all capitalists. Capital is money or an asset that is used to create surplus value that a capitalist can steal from a worker who is doing the actual labor. I highly recommend reading Capital; the first volume is free to read online and it will change the way you see the economy
Vojtěch Tranta
Vojtěch Tranta 6 aylar önce
Can you say which intellectual bomb he dropped here?
Oscar Wood
Oscar Wood 6 aylar önce
Only found out he died today after reading bullshit jobs, what a shame!!
David Vaughn
David Vaughn 3 aylar önce
It's hard to believe that for most of human history, the concept of "debt" did not exist. Communities simply provided for each other, with no expectation for repayment outside of traditional duties that everyone was expected to perform. If you needed shelter, the community came together to construct a shelter. If you needed food, the hunters would provide it. If you were injured, the community would look after you. All that was expected of you was to perform your role and contribute to the community what you are able to contribute. It's ironic that in order to advance as a species, we will need to return to certain societal structures found long before the invention of capitalism, currency, or debt.
doviejames
doviejames 2 yıl önce
I will drink all the coffee that David no longer can. And I will listen to his insights while I'm doing it and be thankful that we were born in the same era, that we were comrades and I can continue to learn from this rad, thoughtful, bighearted dude. RIP DRG! and Thx for posting
Alfie Dyson
Alfie Dyson 4 aylar önce
Drinking coffee myself as his voice fills the room, I lament his untimely absence. Checking the comments and seeing yours welled me up. ✊
icarus313
icarus313 2 yıl önce
David Graeber was such a sweet, charming man. And so full of insight about how our economic system became what it is today. R.I.P. to a real one.
mii
mii 2 aylar önce
@Jacqueline Leitch YES! I HIGHY recommend "Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center" by bell hooks. It really gave me an understanding that hierarchy, the idea of power being control over others/ how we maintain this power through violence, and how this plays a roll in capitalism, are at the root of all group oppression, like sexism, racism and classism. It made a lot of ideas connect for me and gives such good context for our history and how it's relevant in todays culture(s) She doesn't go as far back in history as he does, but it's all connected and lines up perfectly with his points Literally can't recommend it enough it changed my life
Jacqueline Leitch
Jacqueline Leitch 7 aylar önce
And here’s the deal. Taking to heart his insights has actually made my life in the material world easier. This almost never happens for women in the real world when realists pontificate and seem to make sense but Always it wasn’t about feminism. So for sure the issue of debt has to do with women explicitly as it has been the subjugation of women which has created profits.
Carl Roberts
Carl Roberts 8 aylar önce
Buying.underprice.and.selling.dear.curmrrshall .exploition.
Lil Kitsune Mischief
I'm so sad to learn he died. He has done an amazing job on educating people and just really great writing. Rest in power
SomeOne1121
SomeOne1121 2 yıl önce
When he describes the wedding traditions of ancient sumerians and babylonians, I can literally link most of it to memories of my own life, going to the weddings of my relatives. My people are descendants of those ancient people, and we still continue some of these traditions. We don't dress up the bride in money so much anymore, but we do that to the children when they are baptized. And relatives compete with each other on who is the most generous and can stick the most money on the child's dress. His talk quickly took a darker turn however :D
Paradox Rabbit
Paradox Rabbit 2 yıl önce
David Graeber crystallises esoteric principles, from in depth research of ancient civilisations onwards. He explains how the History of Debt is the History of Morality, in a down to earth commonsense fashion. Thought provoking and highly informative, dealing with topics that are often not addressed within our society. RIP Professor David Graeber.
Даниил Зуев
Даниил Зуев 2 aylar önce
This lecture was outstanding! it is intriguing how such different socioeconomical systems can converge to effectively same result.
Nathan Swann
Nathan Swann 2 yıl önce
David Graeber makes it quickly clear how little i actually know about anything. REST-IN-POWER my friend.
JustExtreme
JustExtreme 2 yıl önce
Rest in power David Graeber may your ideas live on. I was not here for this keynote but I went the day after and participated in discussion with him as an equal as well as joining him and some other attendees and organisers for a curry. A truly inspiring and kind man.
Baizhang Huaihai
Baizhang Huaihai 2 yıl önce
Rest in power, David. Irreplaceable.
Brian Blackwell
Brian Blackwell 12 gün önce
Why are we saying "rest in power" instead of "rest in peace"?
Jay D
Jay D Yıl önce
Man, I miss Mr. Graeber. Imagine the great things he could be doing now. We need to carry his work forward.
Audio Pervert
Audio Pervert Yıl önce
He was brilliant. But he died so prematurely. The two books, 5000Years of Debt and Essays On Bureaucracy are brilliant exposes to understand the massive regression and despotism, we have arrived as, a global society.
W1erdThOughts
W1erdThOughts 4 aylar önce
@Lepi Doptera We've only had permanent settlements for around 15 k years, being generous. Before that we were nomadic tribespeople. We have unsustainable luxury in the imperial core, right now. Freedom? Mind telling me precisely how you define freedom? I've found that word has a LOT of different meanings across cultural subgroups.
Normalized Insanity
Normalized Insanity 5 aylar önce
@JPG Except he is not correct. I have made the effort and studied political economy for 20 years, while capitalist apologists understand nothing about economics at all because they have studied nothing....zero, nada, niente, ergo their opinions are based on ignorance and tied to the myth of exceptionalism that makes them deaf to criticism "In his book Escape from Evil, cultural anthropologist Ernest Becker describes consumer culture as a second-rate religion that has programmed a society of ‘cheerful robots’ to martyr all to ‘a grotesque spectacle of unrestrained material production, perhaps the greatest and most pervasive evil to have emerged in all of history.’
JPG
JPG 6 aylar önce
@Lepi Doptera I don't think you might reach anybody. No matter how correct you are, people who are against capitalism are deaf to the truth.
Pomponivs Archibald
Pomponivs Archibald 6 aylar önce
@SMPKarma It isn't necessarily western-centric. I'm from a third world country and my situation made me buy the American Dream bs when I was in my teens (never moved, I just thought it was real). From what I've seen, the US is insanely hierarchical. Of course the poor are less hungry and better dressed, but to call them free would be absurd. The rat race is real, it's just that Americans are driving Formula One cars.
SMPKarma
SMPKarma 8 aylar önce
@Lepi Doptera it's both funny and sad that you claim that people living in the immensely hierarchical societies defined by liberal "democracy" (and thus capitalism) are the freest ever. It shows both your lack of knowledge of anthropology and a very Western-centric view of human history. Humans have lived, and some small communities still do, in (libertarian) communist societies, which are much more free than any capitalist system can ever be. Economic freedom and democracy are very important, something that capitalism doesn't really offer. Educate yourself.
Matthew Fodell
Matthew Fodell 8 aylar önce
Rest In Power to a legend. Thanks for everything, David.
Anna Magnani
Anna Magnani 4 aylar önce
A great mind he was. Rest in peace David. You still are greatly appreciated. ❤️
Mia Bobeea
Mia Bobeea Yıl önce
May his words move us forward to a better world
SMPKarma
SMPKarma 8 aylar önce
words inform us. It's only direct action that can bring about a better world.
Francis Fong
Francis Fong 2 yıl önce
A fkn real one. Rest in peace david graeber and michael brooks
Plautus Satire
Plautus Satire Yıl önce
I miss him so much :(
Spiffy Turtle
Spiffy Turtle 2 yıl önce
Both of them passing in this political atmosphere makes one wish they believed in conspiracy theories
mika
mika 2 yıl önce
@Zebedius II same, suggested his book for our family book club this month and learned he had passed a few months ago. Oh Michael Brooks... Two inspiring souls.
Roger Barraud
Roger Barraud 2 yıl önce
@Zebedius II Me too ... Discovered him today; heard he'd died today :'(
Zebedius II
Zebedius II 2 yıl önce
This is the first time I’m hearing of him, so sad to hear that he’s already passed.. Rest In Peace David Graeber and Michael Brooks.
DStecks
DStecks 7 aylar önce
It hurts so much every time he talks about the things he'd like to work on in more depth some day.
cvestick
cvestick 10 aylar önce
So grateful to be able to learn about Mr Graebers legacy
Stig Pedersen
Stig Pedersen Yıl önce
It hit me like a slap in the face when the camera zooms out 43:40 - one would think until then that David Graeber was lecturing in front of a crowded audience. That moment may reminds us of the fact that great minds of our times are not with us for ever.
Davis Farthing
Davis Farthing 9 aylar önce
I hope it brings you some solace to know that I saw David give a lecture in Hollywood on his book Bullshit Jobs, and it was a packed house. I stood in line for 30 minutes to get my copy signed by him.
Anzus
Anzus 4 yıl önce
Legend has it that this is the same cup of undrunken coffee from his lecture on debt from 2012 at Google.
Steven Bachelor
Steven Bachelor 2 aylar önce
@Lisa Kukla Michael Hudson, economist and friend of David.
PW
PW 6 aylar önce
😆
rugg1999
rugg1999 11 aylar önce
@Yes • cry about it
MST3K
MST3K 2 yıl önce
@Lisa Kukla Dr Michael Hudson. He is amaZing. ❤
Will Morris
Will Morris 2 yıl önce
This is such a keen observation
Victor Lacerda
Victor Lacerda 2 yıl önce
45:10 - "The fundamental contradiction in is the very idea of a free contract in which two parties agree not to be in a relation of equality anymore" "In purely formal terms debt contracts and wage labor contracts are actually very similay because they are two ostensibly equal parties to enter into relation of extreme inequality for a specific period of time, under certain specific conditions. And I think it's this similarity which allowed debt to be the conceptual wedge through which wage labor became socially, morally and politically possible."
Eddie Scott
Eddie Scott Yıl önce
A diamond in the rough. Keep us educated/entertained!
Chris Greene
Chris Greene Yıl önce
I have just discovered this amazing intellect and now he is deceased? What a loss - RIP
Kabal of the Bloody Spoon
Instinctively pulled out a notepad. Cheeky and appropriately academic. Casual lectures were always my favorite part of university (cause of the free lunch, duh) Thanks for posting!
Vixen Liminal
Vixen Liminal 2 yıl önce
wow, this is amazing. This whole essay is *fascinating*, I was completely riveted to the screen (or, the audio rather; I was just listening to it) but yeah! It's fascinating, wonderful work. Thank you!
whateva1983
whateva1983 4 yıl önce
Very good lecture.
David Hand
David Hand 7 aylar önce
I don't see how, in the question of whether bride price is slavery, you can get around the fact that the laborer herself is not compensated and has no compulsory authority over the exchange. You can dance around a lot by focusing on intent and where the wealth ends up, but compelled, uncompensated labor is slavery. How is that not the end of the story?
Tom John
Tom John 2 yıl önce
I once heard it said, “we need the poor, for who else would we have to do the work”, like a drug dealer who need addicts, to buy his product, to become wealthy thru human misery, which is why capitalism and laws were created by those who saw themselves are superior in one way or another, either real or imaginary, a king who passes his kingdom to his offspring, inherited wealth, power and position of ownership of land and others, who do their bidding, all enforced by well paid, trained and armed individuals who protect those they pledge their loyalty to, because they are connected by social, citizenship, ideology and language...
BlueSunStudios1
BlueSunStudios1 5 aylar önce
@TheStarBlack You can't have a winner without a loser.
Prince JellyFish
Prince JellyFish 9 aylar önce
@Crabbadabba They could be rich if they control the resources, which is what money is, an information tool that tracks the flow of resource wealth.
Yours friend
Yours friend 11 aylar önce
@Crabbadabba money isnt everything, but everything needs money.
Crabbadabba
Crabbadabba Yıl önce
@TheStarBlack The rich can't exist without money. Money is a tool.
TheStarBlack
TheStarBlack 2 yıl önce
The rich could not exist without the poor. That is a simple fact.
pxc
pxc 2 yıl önce
RIP. I followed Graeber's reporting on the FNES very closely for a long time, and finally got to reading Debt this year. It was a really sad day when I learned he'd died
2.7 Petabytes
2.7 Petabytes 2 yıl önce
RIP David!! You will be missed
lollertoaster
lollertoaster 9 aylar önce
This is one of those videos you cannot watch in a background. Incredibly interesting and very dense in information. Saving it for later, so I can pay full attention to the lecture.
ToFi 1887
ToFi 1887 Yıl önce
He spoke exactly like he wrote. It’s really fascinating
Marcus Grant
Marcus Grant 2 yıl önce
Wish I could take in the lecture, but it's too sad to think that he was taken from us far too soon
xouat
xouat 2 yıl önce
RIP David Graeber. We are poorer for your absence.
Nick H
Nick H 2 yıl önce
What a lovely, kind, eccentric, brilliant guy.. Gone too soon. 🙄😥
Daniel Norbut
Daniel Norbut 28 gün önce
The idea that a boss, someone paying wages, is actually in debt to the worker is something I never thought about until watching this video. Awesome stuff. 👍
Gozer The Gatekeeper
so hooked on this guy. what a linguist
Kate Hillier
Kate Hillier 2 yıl önce
Great bloke great intellectual Rest in Power brother.xx
Non Latifundia
Non Latifundia 2 yıl önce
From the evolutionary standpoint, the modern remnants of the ancient definitions of work/power relations shows in full relief how old and limited our brains really are. How is it that the 21st Century is headed back to these primitive extremely conservative states. The current emphasis on preserving ownership and wealth in its oldest of forms is not just sad and frustrating it's terrifying when, in the 21st Century, we are witness to the emergence of Billionaires who control more wealth than a majority of sovereign states. Plausible for Ancient Rome, the Dark ages, and early renaissance but shocking and dangerous for our time.
Jim
Jim 7 aylar önce
@Yours friend What is the relevance and how much do you make?
Freedom Arts
Freedom Arts 9 aylar önce
First the world is going to Dark ages now, and the Dark ages were the best moment for humans in their history except wealth and technology which are better now only because the progress of time. Primitive and "extremely conservative" are things that can not go together and do not exist in America or any place in the world. Also Billionaires are product of modern states and socialist actions upon the economy and society, not of "conservatism". Also, there was no conservatism before 19 century, it's an ideology that appears at the end of 18 century, there is a proto conservatism in Caton the old from Rome but you can find communism in Peruvian Inca empire before Europe discovered America, doesn't mean America was communist nor it was an ideology developed. Ancient Rome? Ancient Rome was almost exactly what today USA is, partially "conservative" and partially, greatly Liberal, with a Republic and "democratic sentiment", some socialist elements, welfare, inflation, taxes, regulations and it was a Militar Empire, America is the same thing also Pagan like Rome while America uses on top of that Banks and economic imperialism to control other countries, corporations are a result of these interventions and Republicanism. It is like you complain about "evil things" and you ask for more evil power as solution. The middle ages were a Libertarian Christian traditionalist world, Europe had 1000 countries with FREE MARKET, PRIVATE PROPERTY and FREE MIGRATION, it was politically a quasi anarchist order, and had more order and peace, less violence than any other moment in human history. Most of the "evils" described as medieval are ....MODERN. How a medieval monarchy with full Catholicism and anarcho-capitalist like order would be good? it's impossible right? well, that describes the Richest, most free, most capitalist and most peaceful country in the world right now, The Great Dukedom of Liechtenstein. Corporations did not exist until Republicanism came back with Liberal ideas and anti Christianity sentiment. In 19 century intellectual property rights were created by governments and companies that were small at the time, with the help of the capitalist bourgeois. These laws created corporations. Dangerous times? The world had 1000 million people in the 1800, France 20 million. Only in the first half of the 20 century America, Russia, England, France, Germany and others MURDERED 270 MILLION PEOPLE. In the last 30 years America killed 11 million. Concentration camps, Gulags, dictatorships, hungry people in the time of mass production food machines and technologies. These things never happened before, not even with the Roman empire or ancient egypt. The present world is the most evil time in history and we are all slaves with a rebranded name for slavery.
Falconsfan1020
Falconsfan1020 10 aylar önce
@TheStarBlack People are byproducts of their material conditions, once you ease out of an economy that relies on commodification of resources and accumulation of capital, you’ll start to see a more socialized and collectivized society with post scarcity, and there will be no capitalist urge to have so much more than others, due to people not being raised in an economy where you have to compete for resources. Humans are not inherently bad. Like another commenter said, we used to live in a world without exploitation, and now we just have to get to a post industrial classless society, that has an economy based on human needs as opposed to profit.
Yours friend
Yours friend 11 aylar önce
How much money do you make
Non Latifundia
Non Latifundia Yıl önce
@TheStarBlack Ergo my comment on "how old and primitive our brains really are..."
Anonymous
Anonymous Yıl önce
So feminists asked for Kinship courses to be more inclusive in regard to understanding the subject matter through the lens of the patriarchy and power dynamics and male teachers were just like, “nah, we don’t want to teach it differently so because we won’t change, we just won’t teach it.” That’s pathetic. Thanks for talking about this, professor. You’ll be hugely missed for your invaluable contributions.
Ti R²
Ti R² Aylar önce
@Carbon 12 this is NOT a wendy's tho. this is the humanities department of a university. where else are we supposed to learn about the patriarchy?
Carbon 12
Carbon 12 4 aylar önce
"Don't teach us about maths, we want to learn about the patriarchy" "This is a wendy's"
Meowmeow
Meowmeow 6 aylar önce
Start your own courses. University is already poisoned enough by wokeism
creditsborn
creditsborn 2 yıl önce
Household labor has, historically, been only taken for granted, neither qualified nor quantified... this glaring omission is a testament to how male driven the field of macro is...
bigdaz7272
bigdaz7272 2 yıl önce
Only found out recently that the Translation of The Lords Prayer from The King James Bible was changed around the 1700's. The original translation was "Forgive us our Debts and Forgive our Debtors." The Mercantile Class wanted the long-standing Tradition of 'Debt Forgiveness' out of the Public Consciousness.
ArkadiBolschek
ArkadiBolschek 7 aylar önce
I'm not a religious or a conservative person, but it should be pointed out that the original wording referred to _moral_ debts. Otherwise, you would be saying that you owe _money_ to God, which doesn't make much sense. The Catholic version used to be "Forgive us our debts _as we_ forgive our debtors", i.e. "Forgive our wrongdoings just as we forgive those who have wronged us".
Saras Watkin
Saras Watkin Yıl önce
Always knew there was something wrong with the Lords Prayer. Thanks for that enlightenment.
Luke Hall
Luke Hall Yıl önce
@Lesley Kramer You're getting the pagan Jupiter/Zeus/Dyeus Piter/Thor/etc. mixed up with the Jewish God, which is the same as the Arab Allah and the Father of the Christians (I, for the record, am none of these); these latter are more akin to the Neoplatonic One than to a childish superstition. Atheists always go too far in their arguments, but they serve a purpose. When they overstep, their arguments are easy to destroy. If you want to argue, please be respectful and dignified. I do not mean this sarcastically: be careful before you end up in an anti-religion cult, blind to the hypocrisy of revering human intelligence.
Lesley Kramer
Lesley Kramer 2 yıl önce
@eoghan mc carthy Because that would actually require using one's brain for critical thinking. Religion is opium for the masses. Some people's brain seem predisposed to believing in a "man in the sky".
N B
N B 2 yıl önce
That's due to the Latin's use of debitoribus etc. which better translates to the "trespasses" that Catholics use
Filip
Filip 2 yıl önce
More essay presentations!!!! More of this
Bif Stiff
Bif Stiff 2 yıl önce
His ideas will never die
gwillsthewizard
gwillsthewizard 2 yıl önce
"I never had a chance to write on this, but i will someday!" :(
Liz Hughes
Liz Hughes Yıl önce
😔
eroorefuluf oo
eroorefuluf oo Yıl önce
there are a couple of those moments, this is the most heartbreaking one for sure :((
samuel flath
samuel flath Yıl önce
@Harits Arrazie 38:36
Harits Arrazie
Harits Arrazie 2 yıl önce
Minutes?
Haki Dere
Haki Dere 2 yıl önce
:((((
Doggfather
Doggfather Yıl önce
Rest in power David ✊
Nikola Demitri
Nikola Demitri 2 yıl önce
I’m gonna miss that weird ass laugh he’d always let out at the end of a speech or lecture... 😔RIP David ❤️🏴♾
Nikola Demitri
Nikola Demitri 2 yıl önce
I’m just seeing these replies now... I’m guessing that’s referring to my anarchist and communist interracial homosexual lovers? I love that pic, and so do you.
Robert Stan
Robert Stan 2 yıl önce
@untergeher What's wrong with it? It's hilarious... and also sorta cute lol
untergeher
untergeher 2 yıl önce
yo wtf is up with that pic lmao
Tormunn VII
Tormunn VII 3 yıl önce
Damn....Well, this changed my views on a lot of things. Guess I'm an Anarchist now.
Mack Oody-Patterson
Mack Oody-Patterson 7 aylar önce
@Argyn Tina or socialism
Argyn Tina
Argyn Tina 2 yıl önce
No, you should join communism. Its the only way for our World to survive.
Nevarek
Nevarek 2 yıl önce
@Big G Haywood Anarchy and communism are two different things. Communism can operate under anarchy, but anarchy doesn't imply communism. The reason I like anarchy is for the ability for people to choose what's best for their situation, in which communism could be ideal, while others may go for socialism to suit their needs. The whole point of anarchy is to decentralize power and authority in a way that best suits the people, and is managed by the people's will. There are many different forms of anarchy, one of which includes communism. The point I'm trying to make is that under anarchy, the people can choose which systems work best for them, and no one system will be universally ideal. Enforcement of one particular ideal can be interpreted as unjust would operate against the ideology.
Big G Haywood
Big G Haywood 2 yıl önce
Anarchists and Communists both envision the same future, but whereas Anarchists take an unrealistic anti-historical approach and attitude toward this goal, Communists understand that history has to further develop before we can transition to a classless, cashless, and stateless society. Could anyone really imagine implementing this vision in today's world?? It wouldn't last a month.
utvara1
utvara1 2 yıl önce
@MrJustSomeGuy87 you are high on neuroticism. I pitty you. Watch Edward Dutton.
Michael Dziengel
Michael Dziengel 6 aylar önce
Gone too soon, along with Michael Brooks. Rest in power. ✊
Juan Cilliers
Juan Cilliers 11 aylar önce
So basically when my boss can't pay me he is in debt for my labour and must thus become my slave. Interesting.
James Hardy
James Hardy Yıl önce
With wage slavery comes commodification of being manipulative. The very essential trait of being antisocial. Hard to call anything a society based on that.
Meowmeow
Meowmeow 6 aylar önce
wage-slavery is a misuse of the word slavery. Under socialism however you have real slavery where you are forced to work under the threat of violence.
Area51UFOGynaecology
Area51UFOGynaecology 29 gün önce
oh my god your such a good professor, i should go back to stockholm uni and finish my degree
brendonnz1964
brendonnz1964 2 yıl önce
David's conversations are Fascinating
Daniel Miller
Daniel Miller 2 yıl önce
One of the greats
Tim Block
Tim Block 7 aylar önce
Yes, the commodification of humanity.
dumu pad3-da
dumu pad3-da Yıl önce
Fascinating, very interesting stuff.
Amones-Ray
Amones-Ray 2 yıl önce
Great talk.
TurbzyAngling
TurbzyAngling 2 yıl önce
May he rest in peace!
Patrick McCormack
Patrick McCormack 27 gün önce
We may appreciate conversations/discussions with regards to the relationship of war and debt peonage. Why did 'knowledge of debt peonage' come so late in our understanding of The Condition of Man. The history of debt peonage and effects of contemporary debt... should be taught in high schools. What are your thoughts? If 'faith' pulls and/or pushes our economy, how is it that 'faith' goes beyond The Church? Can we say 'faith' is the purview of The Church, The State, and/or The Condition of Man? The supposed New World Order will be determined by who? Are these questions abstractly disturbing and nonsensical? New World Man - RUSH
Luis Romero
Luis Romero 2 yıl önce
Imagine being Graeber's student... How do you even take notes? Probably you'll be better emptying your cell phone memory and recording the whole class for later analysis.
Abdul-Kareem Abdul-Rahman
part 1 till 29:10 debt as means to extract women's labour Bride wealth; bride price; and so on, that transforms into debt and service (by women from debtor's family) if loans taken for it and unpaid.
Tormunn VII
Tormunn VII 2 yıl önce
Rest in Power.
Nathan Bruce
Nathan Bruce 9 aylar önce
Why in power? When we die we dont have power.
What's Left? News & analysis w/J Snow
Damn, I didn't realize he was gone,he couldn't have been that old. I just discovered him a week or so ago. I've only seen 3 or 4 talks by him, but I was really enjoying his take on debt & economics in general
Gabriel H
Gabriel H Yıl önce
Idk if power wld b the right word for an anarchist but agree otherwise. He was one of the real ones
RIZFERD
RIZFERD 2 yıl önce
@James Buchanan only Madagascar is not really the world. Madagascar was part of our kingdom Minangkabau Indonesia. www.linkedin.com/posts/rizki-ferdian-rizferd-75537056_fibonacci-sequence-and-nikolatesla-in-me-activity-6719943334762311680-SHRo
Alanman88
Alanman88 2 yıl önce
I'm sorry. I couldn't. I tried. *Mouth smack*
Corey Williams
Corey Williams 2 yıl önce
rest in power david
Houston Galloway
Houston Galloway Yıl önce
I really miss this guy.
Thomas Jamison
Thomas Jamison 2 yıl önce
it's hard to resell a used wife, but it was always easy to essentially sell the children for marriage into other families.
Krishnan Unni Madathil
45:00 About contract. A contract between two individuals would be by nature be a contract between unequals - why - because it is the mutual scarcity which has forced them into enter into contract. That is, if the two parties were equal, there wouldn’t be a need for that interaction at all. Indeed, they could be competitors. The fact that they enter into a contract at all implies a certain level of equality by way of consideration of one another’s differences. There is no contract between a man and the chicken he is about to slaughter, for instance. The chicken has not consented to being slaughtered.
ジョーイチルズ
ジョーイチルズ 6 aylar önce
Exactly. Contract is irrelevant if it has forced your hand to sign it.
Lukas Elias
Lukas Elias Yıl önce
watching graeber for the second time in my life (sadly after his). Already lovin his cup moves and know his glasses.^^ do you have to have those kinda ticks to be a real intellectual or are they just comin to you on the way?
Jesper Andersson
Jesper Andersson Yıl önce
No big coincidence (or rather it is) that boatloads of craftsmen fled Belgium to go to Scandinavia/Sweden 1500 to 1700
keepitprofessional
keepitprofessional 2 yıl önce
Rest in power, comrade.
JoSciFi
JoSciFi 2 yıl önce
Living in a service economy would be paradise if we were working half of what we work now for the same pay, with essential services (healthcare, education, housing, nutritious food) provided by society as a whole. It’s economically possible, just not politically possible. Right now, however, most people work in bullshit jobs. Keep the good jobs, lower the hours with same pay, and that’ll increase employment for the jobs that are needed.
Twiglet 22
Twiglet 22 2 yıl önce
Perhaps we could all become lollipop men and women - you don't start work till you are 65 !
TheStarBlack
TheStarBlack 2 yıl önce
@KLJF nah I think greed is the problem. Capitalists can never have enough money. They will take from everyone around them for as long as they can get away with it.
mr snoop
mr snoop 2 yıl önce
what's a service economy?
AppleScab (Venturia inaequalis

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@KLJF see michael Hudson work the other side of the coin
AppleScab (Venturia inaequalis

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Finance is the problem
Tariq Law PC
Tariq Law PC Yıl önce
Amazing!!
Verbal Wound
Verbal Wound 2 yıl önce
I wish David lived to see the GME incident. People are fighting back.
Zephyr
Zephyr 4 aylar önce
@Not In Your Head LESBIAN they’re referring to the time in early 2021 that the internet pumped up a failing stock to an insane value. People like to talk about it as if it was some revolution of democratized stock trading but in reality only a handful of people got rich and big hedge funds never lost any power
Not In Your Head LESBIAN
GME? Can someone elaborate?
George Edwards
George Edwards 5 aylar önce
His mannerisms are amazing
Robben Felix
Robben Felix 2 yıl önce
I miss you already, David.
NakedMoleRat 43
NakedMoleRat 43 2 yıl önce
RIP a real human being right there folks
Lucien Nox Isou
Lucien Nox Isou 4 aylar önce
RIP fellow worker | Solidarity Forever!
aravind ravichandran
Is he reading out from an article/ paper that he wrote - this lecture? I would love to read it
DynamicWorlds
DynamicWorlds Yıl önce
I don't know if what he's reading from was published, but he's put out multiple full books ("Debt: the First 5000 Years" and "Bullshit Jobs" being probably the most well-known)
James Morgan
James Morgan Yıl önce
Rest in peace, King
TaKercem
TaKercem 2 yıl önce
Andy Dufrain makes some good points
दीपक
दीपक 2 yıl önce
😂😂 it's Dufresne though.
MrBlackMarvel
MrBlackMarvel 2 yıl önce
lol
glowing unknown
glowing unknown 2 yıl önce
Enjoying listening to the book much more than this lecture.
Jimbob Robob
Jimbob Robob Yıl önce
This was good... Shame there wasn't a Q&A following....
just another human
just another human 8 aylar önce
love the coffee cup dance ... finally at 13:24 David takes a sip.
Cass
Cass Yıl önce
Slavery and Indentured labour are not the same thing. Slavery is the ownership of the person and his or her offspring. Indentured labour is more akin to a long lease on ones labour power and time. Bride price is a completely different thing. It's a form of compensation to parents for rearing the woman. I find it very hard to listen to this long splurge of assertions with virtually no sources or evidence to back them up.
Xal
Xal Yıl önce
Perhaps you should read the book with citations instead of listening to him chat in a half empty classroom if you are looking for references to sources and evidence.
Cathy Elings-Sysel
Cathy Elings-Sysel 11 aylar önce
Freaking weird. We need worldwide female sel-defense courses, including weapons training.
Armament Armed Arm
38:43 I vaguely recall some reference to British citizens owning shares in Caribbean slaves.
Mat Brady
Mat Brady 2 yıl önce
R.I.P. On a side note: The way David's glasses dance on and off his face is mesmerising.
Lee Zowers
Lee Zowers 2 yıl önce
A legend that I only now reading. My bad
Cathy Elings-Sysel
Cathy Elings-Sysel 11 aylar önce
Rest in Power.
bob often
bob often 2 yıl önce
14:05 " Cheap Labour " Black Adder Said It Best " How Can You Tell Your Peasants Not Working Hard Enough ? " " He's Still Breathing " ( Black Adder The British Comedy ) ( BBC Television )
Project Integrity
on the level of consciousness, at times I think of money as "units of sexual prowess" "proof to others of sexual attractiveness" or "sperm count" (in today's world despite its other functions in more primitive times)
brendonnz1964
brendonnz1964 2 yıl önce
David Graeber is a tremendous loss to Society.
PUNK CAPRI
PUNK CAPRI 2 aylar önce
I've watched this like 4 times now because I fell asleep watching something else if it keeps getting recommended to me then it's probably pretty good ig
Em Ma
Em Ma 7 aylar önce
I've missed his voice ✊✨
Tamás Veress
Tamás Veress Yıl önce
By chance anyone knows some of the writings Graeber references? (Simon Deakin and others...)
Mel *
Mel * 6 aylar önce
Does anyone else’s anxiety go through the roof watching this guy?
Mr. Anderson
Mr. Anderson 2 yıl önce
Drinking game: take a drink every time David takes off or puts on his glasses.
TheStarBlack
TheStarBlack 2 yıl önce
And take a drink every time he picks up his cup but doesn't drink!
iamNOTpablo
iamNOTpablo 11 aylar önce
Rest in peace big dawg
John Doe
John Doe 4 aylar önce
Rest well, comrade. I hope to see you in Sindri's hall.
Pelle Jönsson
Pelle Jönsson 2 yıl önce
1 minute in and he’s already put on and taken off his glasses 10 times lmao
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