CLIVE HOLES | Evolution of Arabic Dialects | Conversations

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Clive Holes talks about the relationship between standard and non-standard Arabic, cultural myths of the history of Arabic, and the vectors impacting the evolution of Arabic.
Clive Holes received his education from High Arcal Grammar School, Trinity Hall (Cambridge University), Wolfson College (Cambridge University), and Birmingham University. He worked as an Overseas Career Officer of the British Council in various countries and was involved in the establishment of Sultan Qaboos University in Muscat, Oman. He served as a Lecturer and Reader in Arabic at Salford and Cambridge Universities, respectively, and held the Khalid bin Abdullah Al-Saud Chair for the Study of the Contemporary Arab World at Magdalen College and the Oriental Institute. He was elected a Fellow of the British Academy in 2002 and became Emeritus Professor in 2014. He was also elected as the President of the Council for British Research in the Levant (CBRL) in 2017.
*Chapters*
00:00 Introduction
00:55 Upbringing and Education
02:44 Career
04:30 Linguistics vs Sociolinguistics
17:10 Modern Standard Arabic: Origins and History
27:21 Are we losing the written Arab Language
42:18 Poetry in the Arab World
1:03:00 Q&A
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Mohamed Gamal Zaky 2 aylar önce

He said what I’ve been saying for years about Fos7a. It’s a huge burden on the education system, in Egypt atleast.

Zarghaam12 Aylar önce

It seems the non-Arabs & those Arabs keen on it, both being enthusiastic on maintaining "Fus-Haa" are the future of the classical language! 😊

D 2 aylar önce

Great interview. Enjoyed this immensely.

afikra - عفكرة Aylar önce

Awesome, thank you!

Abeer Khlaifat 2 aylar önce

Big thanks for the interview afikra! Dr Holes has dropped some very controversial and sensitive topics here as in his works and It's really disappointing that the interview was not conducted by someone who is a linguist or at least knows more about these issues!

juhanamia 2 aylar önce

I disagree with Clive's opinion in the end. There is a small but passionate group of progressive people who love classical Arabic and are working very hard to nurture that love in their children as well. I'm personally very happy writing and reading in fus7a while speaking in slang. The human mind has an amazing capacity to be multi-lingual, so why should we limit ourselves? Plus anyone who values being able to understand the Qur'an on their own will value knowing fus7a.

afikra - عفكرة Aylar önce

Interesting take!

Zarghaam12 Aylar önce

Interacting with many I realized that many in the Arab world would rather have their dialects "recognized" as official langues of the countries concerned. Some feel that the "Aamiyyah" Arabic and "Fuf-Haa" Arabic can co-exist in a society and people should do both. I think it is eminently possible. Classical (Fus-Haa) Arabic has a very rich history so it'll be a shame to ignore all that. It all depends in the end on people of how they want to do this. Having said all this, it seems that the future of "Fus-Haa" Arabic rests not just with the Arabs but also people outside the Arab world since Classical Arabic is the language of the Quran, Hadiith and a cast corpus of Arabic literature. Perhaps the future of "Fus-Haa" lies outside the Arab world, given that many non-Arabs are, by necessity, choosing "Fus-Haa" or obvious reasons. I read many years ago an article by the famous Lebanese writer, Khalil Gibran, who wrote about the future of the Arabic language and where it was heading. It was more of a lament than any suggestions for where he thought the language might be heading.

Mohammed Raheef 2 aylar önce

The professor briefly mentioned that french and english were colonial languages, to which I agree in every general sense of the term "colonial", but can't the same be said for the Arabic language or arabian culture?

Mohammed Raheef 2 aylar önce

I understand that the imperialism of antiquity takes on a completely different form from that imperialism of the European colonial era, but they do still share the all encompassing all-absorbing predominate spread of culture or language, which was the exact case with the anthropology of Arabs of both the paninnsula and the lavent.

Paperbag Writer 2 aylar önce

One of the greatest guest choices, tho the host should have been/showed more interest in the topic. Hope we start talking about Linguistics more in the modern Arab world. Still tho, good job yall!!!

Mohammed Raheef 2 aylar önce

nice episode!