Can I Beat the "Extremely Unfair" Elden Ring Mod? 

Haha, get pranked

like in witcher 3

nice prank indeed

@Ali Gmal I hate portals.

no lmao it's super lazy

Did you se that renalla room

@Rabadan422 Yes, I saw the Rennala room.

tripling player projectiles was probably just an unavoidable consequence tbh

If they didn't, nobody would play it. There would be very little point in it.

@Fiks Anzo™ I mean, it's called "Extremely Unfair" for a reason.

Listen... I don't disagree... but when killing Radahn drops TWO Starscourge Rememberances, along with 1,000,000 Runes.... Is it that HARD to get to 200? Lmao

nah you know what I would have done more maximum unfairness? Give it to the dragonkin soldier in the Lake of Rot since you can get there before the plateau.

@Krystle Leis you... you're evil. And that would be PERFECT for this mod

@Joshua Ward i try my best :)

Idk if they changed it or it bugged for but I didn't get the right half from Renalla... I found this video desperately searching for someone who found it and the result couldn't be worse.

@Nir Shemri what was it

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I feel like this sums up Soulsborne games as a whole.

@TJ facts!!

The star is sorcery ong

Little Timmy levels lmao

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​@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ can jesus beat this mod though

It's stealthy as no one is alive to know about it

Basically a Stealth assassin with a portable artillery cannon.

I guess the same Claptrap logic about Pandora also applies to the Lands Between.

Starcraft ghost tactics

@NoodleKeeper LMAO

yeah, kinda stupid how magic is so OP. bet hey, some stuff is gonna be stronger than others, and for me, it feels beter to do a melee build.

But what if... you combined this mod with the sekiro mod? It could be possible, Sekiros movement speed when sprinting is extremely fast, fast enough to dodge most attacks, his offensive options are quick and deal a ton of damage, plus you can use parry and dodge to avoid getting hit.

It hurts.

@Jason Taylor no lol, it makes sense that magic should be way stronger than physical builds. Unbalanced, but certainly not stupid.

​@fr s and you get punished for using spells. Cast times can make or break a fight against certain enemies.

@TheSletchman That's why I'm waiting for mods like "The Convergence" which are basically that. For those who don't know, "The Convergence" is a Dark Souls 3 mod that's basically "okay, but what if all those spells had their own school and were actually worth a damn" and it delivers not just that, it introduces some extra spells along with it. Each great school (Sorcery, Miracle, Pyromancy) is split into four minor schools, each dealing with four of the five damage types each. For example, Pyromancy/Now called Conjuration is now fire themed Pyromancy (duh), dark and frost based Cryomancy, physical and poison based Geomancy (rocks), and the completely new magic and summon based Druidism (where magic comes in two variants: nature, like trees or water, and essence, which is best described as Blackflame before Blackflame was a thing, only not percent-based, but stat and spell dependant.) Miracles are the physical and healing based Holy Miracles, the lightning- based Gwyn miracles, the dark and bleed based Deep Miracles, and the magic, summon and debuff based Necromancies. Finally, Sorceries are the magic Crystal Sorceries, the lightning based Light Sorceries of Oolacile, the physical Aeromancies of Forossa, and the dark bases Hexes. As for why I'm waiting for it, the developers have already stated that they plan on creating another Convergence mod for Elden Ring.

kinda like scholar of the first sin

Yo convergemce was my jam. I really appricated that mod because it wasn't just another "lol i put 5000000 enemys in this room and added 3 0s onto every bosses hp isnt it so haaardccooorreee?!" Mod. It was a very nice overhaul that made ds3 fresh and exciting again. Hearing they're at work on a convergence for eldenring makes me happy.

Exactly she was supposed to be Marika level! I get you fight an illusion made by Ranni tho so we dont really ever fight the real Rennala :(

@Aziouss indeed! Let alone the fact that the Golden army had massive numbers compared to the Carians and Raya Lucaria, which alludes to the fact that Rennala, alongside her supposed mastery over sorcery, was a genius military tactician to be able to circumvent the number disadvantage like that

It seems like this mod changes it to increase your casting speed by 15% instead of a flat 30 dex which might be even better at 99 DEX? not sure how it’d work

I guess it depends: is it 30% of your CURRENT casting speed, or is it just a + 30% of some default value? If it’s the former that could get way more effective as time goes on and your dex goes up. If it’s the later, it would probably drop off as your dex got higher… I think,,, maybe… I’m bad at math so, take anything I say with a grain of salt

it feels ironic since the whole thing with this mod seems to be to play like a no-hit runner. That's why I think Malenia's life steal effect is very underrated, she feels like a reverse demon of hatred in the sense that her health functions more like the posture meter from sekiro. it encourages you to play perfectly like you would in a fight with isshin.

This is the same person who put every Lord of Cinder in the Soul of Cinder's arena. It's not that she isn't overpowered and bullshit (she is), it's because she's a more interesting flavor of overpowered bullshit. Healing on hit, near-constant hyper armor, and weird dodging are at least more interesting to deal with than multiplying all the numbers and puking adds and status effects on everything.

Reminds me of a sekiro overhaul (I think it was resurrection?) where they make the game harder, yet even they nerfed the blazing bull. Cause fuck blazing bull.

@thundering dumbass yeah exactly, I was about to say that lmao

Wait... so what you're telling me... is that Comet Azur isn't shooting out like a beam with a TRAIL... but is duping itself like a shitty garry's mod emitter and just has really good animations to cover it up? XD That's genius and honestly a pretty great shortcut to coding, I'm not even mad.

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Well seeing how easy it was with magic I don't know how accurate that is

@Some Yeeter On The Block magic and cheese

@reekerman 101 now that's my kind of sandwich!

Tbh based on what I've seen later part of this mod is surpringly okay with you also dealing 10x dmg and having infinite consumables etc etc The beginning of the game is what prevents me from starting it because beginning is the most bullshit part where enemies are still buffed like shit while you deal barely more dmg than base game unless you explore Caelid

Wonder how strong melee builds are

Yeah this is what I would’ve tried. I’m assuming they would’ve taken it out but who knows. Those spells made them trivial after figuring it out. By now I’m sure people know about this but after a few months of games release I was really surprised how many people didn’t know about it. I tried my hardest to write signs for go to beat them bc people left ones complaining about them all the time.

Well this is post gameplay commentary

You feel like Elden Lord with this mod, your just a lowly tarnished in a big bad world and through the process of buffing that shit out of yourself with the stuff that's already buffed to shit you really do feel like the only thing that could be worth your time for more than 2 seconds is a literal god that your now married to. I loved it

Downloading extremely unfair mod and proceeds to farm for hours to make yourself OP. Nice

@Tantan must die Thats the point, I did 2 playthroughs before I did what my omment says, It's a really fun game and once I went through all the enounters I just made it the most broken it ould be. And by God it was broken.

Wait it was 30 minutes? I legit thought only 15 minutes went by

Oh yeah that was a 20 min vid huh? Dang

i put it at .5

Yea I seriously felt like it was 10 minutes. After the video ended and I hit the comments I see this and my mind is blown. I was actually disappointed it was over so quick.

Still watched it at 2x

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It was a smart move to replace him. Elden Beast spamming his Elden Stars over and over again is way too far. This mod is supposed to be unfair, but there's a difference between unfair and just straight up unplayable. The unfairness should be in a way that allows for counterplay. Spamming a shit ton of enemies in a small space is unfair, but there's counterplay. Get a big weapon and heavy poise, and swing away. When the unfairness comes from not being able to even affect an enemy because he constantly spams a barrage of hundreds of projectiles at you, it's just genuinely atrocious design.

Yeah I've seen him get glitched like that by a variety of mods, removing him does seem like the smart choice with that context.

i never liked elden beast as a boss anyway

eh worst boss anyway

Not exclusive to this mod I've had that bug where he spams the ring attack with other mods. Something about changing the core files does that.

Its seriously looking at a problem in many different ways untill its solved.

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More like how strong magic is.

But being good at a soulsborne game does kinda require you to know about the game

@Matte I bet you can't complete this mod with magic as I.P

That has always been true for Souls games. Knowledge is more important than skill, that's why anyone can complete a souls game, you just need to adapt and think.

Maybe seemless co-op with friends? Alongside other mods as well.

What would you think of covering King's field 3/2?

You should definitely play more mods for fromsoft!

Have you played Lunacid yet?

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lol ikr

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lmao

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" You really shouldn't have done that greg. "

Believe it or not, this feels more fair than the DS3 Ascended mod. That thing... Well, the last boss has every single Lord at the same time. That's only the tip of the iceberg

@Toan Greenlow did you play DS3 ascended? I really hate how people overexaggerate the final boss.. It was soo easy like unbelievably easy. I ended the fight in 3 minutes and 7 attempts. People like to judge the fight by watching Prod's run but what I noticed is that prod was playing the entire thing wrong. You're supposed to only target SoC himself. He has way too little HP and if you target him and keep spamming attacks the fight will end in no time without even having to deal with the other lords. So I 100% think Prod could've EASILY done it but he was so distracted by the other lords to realize that SoC has like 10x less the amount of HP of midir and Gael etc. Imo if he can beat Midir then he absolutely can beat SoC. Even looking at the mods comment by people who beat the mod I couldn't find a single one that complained about SoC because believe it or not it's really no where near as hard as some of the other bosses. Hardest boss in the mod is undoubtedly Nameless King.

(to be clear) when I say "easy" I don't mean like a walk in the park. I mean it in a easy for ascended type of way. Like for an ascended mod this really ain't that bad.

@MOZ Oh wow. That's actually... really damn cool and also a TINY bit saddening that the other Lords are basically meaningless in the fight. I guess DS2 does the final boss fight better with Fume Knight, Sinh and Ivory King

The Ascended mods are always the worst and jankiest of difficulty overhaul mods for any souls game. I'd wait a bit longer for more polished mods to exist.

Doesn’t the white deathbed dress offer healing to summons and co op?

I agree, in Elden Ring game knowledge is just as powerful a tool as raw skill. That applies to the prior games as well but with this game giving us so many toys to mess with, strong knowledge of the game can make you hilariously overpowered very, very fast in dozens of different ways

I disagree, while yes he’s pretty decent at the game still, knowledge just makes it easier to cheese which, yes smort, but has nothing to do with raw skill and reflexes

you have to know all these things to do no damage runs, it's not just about being able to press the circle button good

@Zaka Waka so isnt that a skill too? That just make you said knowledge it just as powerful as raw skill

Wait no pros have both raw skills and knowledge dont they?

That doesn't sound possible

Please, don't give ideas

@Scorn700 don't worry. It's quite literally physically impossible. Anyone who wants to try it will either be stuck for years or just instantly give up. There are some attacks in this mod that are simply way too fast to be able to humanly react fast enough to dodge.

Did you not watch the rennala fight? The tracking makes it literally impossible

The WHAT HEALTH REGEN?

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Wow I didn't know about that 4th way until now! It's so cool how many secrets this game hides. I remember how proud I was for reaching the Altus Plateau via the secret passage with all the ladders without looking it up before. So many cool memories just from one playthrough, it's amazing.

For some extra interesting info that sending gate is only active if you have killed 2+ demigods. If you show up after just icing Radahn then no transport for you.

The portal probably kills you. Every other skip portal does.

That was the first way I got into lyndell on my blind play through

@ROR5CH4CH yeah, you can also get to Uhl/nokstella by going through the sewers to the three fingers, rather than doing the ranni questline and the dragonkin

The reason they respawn is because, as far as I can tell, they're not bound to the boss room in the same way that the boss itself is. They're just random enemies that just so happen to be in that room too. If they were made not to respawn, then players could kill them, fail to kill the boss and die, and when they return for their next attempt the additional enemies just wouldn't be there.

​@russeshe001 The boss isn't actually "bound" to the boss room, though, it's the other way around. As long as the flag for "boss_killed" hasn't been set, fog gates appear, the boss spawns, etc. All bosses are, initially, respawning. But in the code for loading the area it is checked if the flag has been triggered, and if it has the boss is disabled and killed every single time the area is reloaded. You can just include those additional enemies' IDs in that code and they ALSO wouldn't respawn after the boss is dead. And since the "low health buff" function likely uses the "low health music change" function, which requires an entity ID and is executed as part of the map script, the IDs for those enemies already exist and are used in the same file that contains the respawning behaviour. Basically, all it would take is take those two IDs, copy and paste the Disable/Kill lines and replace the boss' ID with them. If this mod didn't have the low HP buff and only gave enemies elemental damage and doubled them, it could have been made without editing scripts, but since it DOES I'm pretty sure it would only take two copy/pastes and changing those IDs to the new enemies'. On the other hand, they might've found some hacky way of doing it without editing scripts and just chose not to do any scripting, even if that sounds way more complicated to me. As someone that has never modded anything and only knows about how modding is done from LobosJr's "Learning Modding", I am confident I could modify ALL of those enemies to not respawn in a single day; including downloading all the programs I'd need for modding them. Although maybe THAT might be the answer. Maybe at the time of creation for this mod the script part simply wasn't developed/understood enough. Since connecting the Adds' AI with the boss would've solved those cheese problems, that might just be it. Either way, nowadays it is possible to do and honestly not hard either. Definitely easier than giving them low HP buffs, too.

Also a thing they did for most ascended mods for dark souls games they added the ring effect to the bosses that at low health you have more resistances

@King Gecko You see, THAT'S probably why those enemies respawn, because those effects don't need any scripting and could even be modified to be way stronger for specific enemies... yeah, I guess this mod doesn't actually do any script changes then, so the way it is set up is only through Param edits; which doesn't go into respawning mechanics.

İ legit fell asleep while reading this

I understand you mean no ill-will to vets in the statement, but comparing a hell on earth moment in time to a video game mod… nah. I’d rather be doing that mod over D-Day anyday

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@KampsKnows im sure dday wasnt that bad

@Nigga Stole My Yoshi! Imagine the lucky bastards being the last ones too land and just skipping to the end of the beach over all the bodies

@KampsKnows D-Day didn't have giant archers as far as I'm aware tho

Healing spells kill them. Just heal next to them a couple times - they get stunlocked